Democratic Primaries

Demsrule86

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57. Like who? You talk policy and that is important but losers in an election don't get

Reply to Celerity (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 06:43 AM

Jun 2019

to advance policy. Trump will be tough to beat...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden holds 12-point lead among 2020 Democrats as Warren rises [View all] left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 OP

KR Cha Jun 2019 #1

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may it continue to shrink, we can do so much better Celerity Jun 2019 #3

Ahh the bouncy thing tells me it's only about helping Mayor Pete. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #4

Buttigieg is far from the only candidate who is superior to Biden Celerity Jun 2019 #5

Biden is the only candidate who will win a general... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #6

nope, ridiculous Celerity Jun 2019 #7

Factual. He can win MI,WI and PA. I don't see the others having a chance. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #8

you have zero concrete proof of any of those positings, other than some oh so malleable polls Celerity Jun 2019 #9

If Trump wins MI,WI and PA, HE WINS IT ALL! Biden stops him. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jun 2019 #13

zero proof of this, it is all based off hypotheticals and early poll-based prognostication Celerity Jun 2019 #14

Nothing to do with polls...the map tells it all. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #17

I know the map, Biden is not the only path to victory, if he was, why hold primaries Celerity Jun 2019 #19

Show me how we win without those states...MI,WI and PA Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #22

strawman, there is no reason another candidate cannot win those states Celerity Jun 2019 #23

So you think Warren or Harris can win those states in a general? It we won't happen. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #61

lol so it's based off something that you don't agree with. Not zero proof. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #26

you do not have exclusives on a crystal ball Celerity Jun 2019 #27

Not fail. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #30

no, your line of certainty is a fail, it is far from a concrete fact Celerity Jun 2019 #32

It is a free country....unless of course Trump wins again. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #34

Biden is not the only person on the planet between us and a Trump win. Celerity Jun 2019 #35

I think he is. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #62

we disagree and will continue to do so, on this Celerity Jun 2019 #65

I'm representing the polls, buddy. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #36

oki BUDDY you do that, history is littered with people who bet the farm on sure things and polls Celerity Jun 2019 #38

No one is betting the farm on anything... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #42

you do not have a singular claim on a reality that is not remotely fully shaped yet Celerity Jun 2019 #43

I have the reality of now. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #44

I'll only support Biden in the general, that's my reality, I don't like his stances on a variety Celerity Jun 2019 #45

What cock-sure? I am only pointing out Biden is doing the best head-to-head. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #48

I can accept that manner of putting it Celerity Jun 2019 #50

.. Cha Jun 2019 #55

This is factually incorrect... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #28

Yes, but that is the point. Biden was born in PA and is loved there...he is our best chance Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #33

seeing as I am being accused of not looking at 'maps' let me re-enforce your post Celerity Jun 2019 #37

This map shows clearly that our only real path is to rebuild the rustbelt. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #63

Biden will win PA...hands down. No other candidate will do so. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #59

It is what I believe. Have you looked at an electoral map...done any calculations? Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #16

you know I have, I have so many posts with electoral maps up Celerity Jun 2019 #24

So do I. Do you think Mayor Pete can win a general? Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #29

there are other better options than Biden, Pete is far from the only one Celerity Jun 2019 #31

I don't see any better options to win the states we need. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #39

time will tell, it is far too early for the certainty Celerity Jun 2019 #41

I live on Ohio. I used to live in PA...I just want to win. The other candidates will Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #56

Like who? You talk policy and that is important but losers in an election don't get Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #57

before the Russian attack on the elections Democrats won those 3 states for 6 straight JI7 Jun 2019 #10

Close elections are easy to steal...won't be close with Biden. He is our only shot. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #12

2000 shld 2004 was close and Democrats won those. 2016 was about the attacks on the elections JI7 Jun 2019 #15

We lost both 2000 and 2004. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #18

we won MI WI and PA which you claim only Biden can do JI7 Jun 2019 #20

This was before we started winning Virginia and one other state maybe Nevada or Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #25

Look as the the map...take PA, WI and MI out of the 'D' column...now Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #60

Yeah it's a good group BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #21

obviously I will vote for him IF he is the nominee, I have made that clear in a myriad of posts Celerity Jun 2019 #49

I like Mayor Pete but he has a serious diversity problem redstateblues Jun 2019 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #52

lol Cha Jun 2019 #53

I am liking Senator Warren more by the day. Blue_true Jun 2019 #46

I don't think Warren can win a general. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #58

I don't agree with you. Blue_true Jun 2019 #66

Time will tell but she will not attract moderate voters in my view in rustbelt states. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #67

A lot of those voters agree with her ideas on fair taxation and healthcare. Blue_true Jun 2019 #68

Issues will not win the rusrbelt... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #71

Matter of opinion. She has also laid out plans for job growth, which WILL play in the Midwest. nt Blue_true Jun 2019 #72

I've switched my preference to Warren. cwydro Jun 2019 #40

Who did you support before? Blue_true Jun 2019 #47

Biden, but I also like Buttigieg and Harris. cwydro Jun 2019 #54

EW was my #1 Cosmocat Jun 2019 #64

Weird, the headline and even the link changed to 11 point differential. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #69

So why did you leave out Kamala Harris? Andy823 Jun 2019 #70