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In reply to the discussion: Did Joe Biden say he might REVERT to favoring the Hyde Amendment in the FUTURE !?! [View all]PatSeg
(53,546 posts)20. The Hyde Amendment
has been used by republicans for years to attack Democrats and Planned Parenthood. Until recently Democrats have compromised over and over again in an effort to protect Planned Parenthood, abortion rights, and most recently the ACA.
From Wikipedia:
Executive Order 13535 is an executive order announced by President Barack Obama on March 21, 2010, and signed on March 24. It reinforces a commitment to preservation of the Hyde Amendment's policy restricting federal funds for abortion within the context of recent health care legislation. The order was signed after an agreement with pro-life Democratic Congressman Bart Stupak, who had said he and several other pro-life Democrats in the House of Representatives would not support the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act unless the Bill's language prohibiting federal funding of abortions was strengthened.
The executive order was condemned as ineffective by major pro-life organizations, including the Susan B. Anthony List, the National Right to Life Committee, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops,[6] Family Research Council, the American Family Association, Focus on the Family, and Americans United for Life, among others. The organizations said executive orders can be rescinded at any time by any administration. They also said the fact that an executive order was needed proves that the health care law did fund abortion. The National Right to Life Committee said the executive order did not correct seven provisions in the law they identified as objectionable.
Pro-choice groups also condemned the executive order, questioning Obama's commitment to the pro-choice position. The National Organization for Women, Planned Parenthood, NARAL Pro-Choice America, and EMILY's List were among pro-choice groups opposing the executive order.
The executive order was condemned as ineffective by major pro-life organizations, including the Susan B. Anthony List, the National Right to Life Committee, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops,[6] Family Research Council, the American Family Association, Focus on the Family, and Americans United for Life, among others. The organizations said executive orders can be rescinded at any time by any administration. They also said the fact that an executive order was needed proves that the health care law did fund abortion. The National Right to Life Committee said the executive order did not correct seven provisions in the law they identified as objectionable.
Pro-choice groups also condemned the executive order, questioning Obama's commitment to the pro-choice position. The National Organization for Women, Planned Parenthood, NARAL Pro-Choice America, and EMILY's List were among pro-choice groups opposing the executive order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13535
Apparently compromising on this issue has not served Democrats or women and Democratic politicians are finally putting their foot down. Joe was a little slow to catch up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Did Joe Biden say he might REVERT to favoring the Hyde Amendment in the FUTURE !?! [View all]
uawchild
Jun 2019
OP
Apparently, but, hopefully, Joe's political advisers will soon straighten out their messaging.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2019
#53
So a month ago the article says he was in favor of walking back on the Hyde Amendment
OKNancy
Jun 2019
#11
And unfortunately now an "analyst" has to make something up without actually quoting Biden.
George II
Jun 2019
#17
No, his campaign said he misheard the question from the ACLU activist, claimed he thought it was
Celerity
Jun 2019
#21
When did he say "he may REVERT BACK TO BEING FOR IT"? That's the second time I've seen this here.
George II
Jun 2019
#22
You will have to ask the NBC reporter Allen, unless you are accusing him of making it up out of
Celerity
Jun 2019
#28
Then I'll take it that Biden never said it. The other reference earlier on DU was also from Allen.
George II
Jun 2019
#29
I will try and find confirmation, but it is disingenuous to try and and shift it immediately to
Celerity
Jun 2019
#30
Not even close. But if one wants it to "read" that way, one can read it that way.
George II
Jun 2019
#50
How does that say, hint, or imply that he could change his mind ("revert") on what he had just said?
George II
Jun 2019
#49
Not a good look... Joe needs to work with his advisers to get his messaging down.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2019
#54
well to be fair, Biden was not very linear with his word flow, but he did say it, and here it is
Celerity
Jun 2019
#35
If one attributes a statement to a candidate, the least one should do is quote it directly....
George II
Jun 2019
#37
I just gave you the transcript of Bidens own words, where he says it, roflmaoooo
Celerity
Jun 2019
#38
Yes you did, but unless I missed it, he never said or even implied that he would "revert".
George II
Jun 2019
#39
I'm not playing semantics, I just don't see even a hint of what is being claimed, not a hint....
George II
Jun 2019
#42
I did, twice and also the bigger excerpt (which has the same words) twice.....
George II
Jun 2019
#44
Curious how he leads off what he's going to say with the fact that he's making no apologies.
Demit
Jun 2019
#14
Where/when did he say that? Notice the article didn't use any of Biden's exact words....
George II
Jun 2019
#15
I wouldn't rely on Johnathan Allen, who along with Amy Parnes wrote the book Shattered, professing
still_one
Jun 2019
#19
There is no excuse for Biden's support for the Hyde Amendment. For whatever reason it was good that
still_one
Jun 2019
#16
I think it's telling that Jonathan Allen didn't present what Biden actually said.
George II
Jun 2019
#18
You'll of course, rationalize he didn't say that in such as way as to strengthen your bias, yes?
LanternWaste
Jun 2019
#26