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George II

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37. If one attributes a statement to a candidate, the least one should do is quote it directly....
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 02:38 PM
Jun 2019

Jonathan Allen didn't. Since presumably it was said in a "gaggle", someone else would have reported on it too, but Allen's report is the only one. I stand by my original suspicion, it didn't happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #1
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #2
Schrodinger's Biden /nt tonedevil Jun 2019 #3
Good one. nt shanny Jun 2019 #4
LMFAO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #51
Does the Evolving Door turn both ways? jalan48 Jun 2019 #5
Apparently, but, hopefully, Joe's political advisers will soon straighten out their messaging. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #53
Does anyone think this can be kept alive until the primaries MineralMan Jun 2019 #6
Agreed. Well said. ancianita Jun 2019 #7
"kept alive until the primaries"? No. crazytown Jun 2019 #8
Until it isn't his position... again... WoonTars Jun 2019 #9
There will be more opportunities for the Biden Excuse machine. n/t MarcA Jun 2019 #12
Whipping the Dead Horse is . . . peggysue2 Jun 2019 #31
This seems so out of touch with current reality and current politics. enough Jun 2019 #10
So a month ago the article says he was in favor of walking back on the Hyde Amendment OKNancy Jun 2019 #11
And unfortunately now an "analyst" has to make something up without actually quoting Biden. George II Jun 2019 #17
No, his campaign said he misheard the question from the ACLU activist, claimed he thought it was Celerity Jun 2019 #21
When did he say "he may REVERT BACK TO BEING FOR IT"? That's the second time I've seen this here. George II Jun 2019 #22
You will have to ask the NBC reporter Allen, unless you are accusing him of making it up out of Celerity Jun 2019 #28
Then I'll take it that Biden never said it. The other reference earlier on DU was also from Allen. George II Jun 2019 #29
I will try and find confirmation, but it is disingenuous to try and and shift it immediately to Celerity Jun 2019 #30
Full remarks here melman Jun 2019 #32
It's clear that the paraphrase in the OP article is accurate. uawchild Jun 2019 #33
Not even close. But if one wants it to "read" that way, one can read it that way. George II Jun 2019 #50
thanks for digging this up Celerity Jun 2019 #36
How does that say, hint, or imply that he could change his mind ("revert") on what he had just said? George II Jun 2019 #49
Not a good look... Joe needs to work with his advisers to get his messaging down. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #54
Well, Allen did a long article about Biden's stance yesterday.... George II Jun 2019 #34
well to be fair, Biden was not very linear with his word flow, but he did say it, and here it is Celerity Jun 2019 #35
If one attributes a statement to a candidate, the least one should do is quote it directly.... George II Jun 2019 #37
I just gave you the transcript of Bidens own words, where he says it, roflmaoooo Celerity Jun 2019 #38
Yes you did, but unless I missed it, he never said or even implied that he would "revert". George II Jun 2019 #39
revert is an accurate paraphrase to what Biden's intent was in his own speech Celerity Jun 2019 #41
I'm not playing semantics, I just don't see even a hint of what is being claimed, not a hint.... George II Jun 2019 #42
my last reply Celerity Jun 2019 #43
I did, twice and also the bigger excerpt (which has the same words) twice..... George II Jun 2019 #44
It's right there in his words... tonedevil Jun 2019 #52
Never got an answer melman Jun 2019 #56
I didn't expect much else. /nt tonedevil Jun 2019 #57
diminishing returns uawchild Jun 2019 #40
Jonathan Allen is one Cha Jun 2019 #45
Mental self-gratification NYMinute Jun 2019 #13
Curious how he leads off what he's going to say with the fact that he's making no apologies. Demit Jun 2019 #14
I'm afraid you're right. JudyM Jun 2019 #58
Where/when did he say that? Notice the article didn't use any of Biden's exact words.... George II Jun 2019 #15
I wouldn't rely on Johnathan Allen, who along with Amy Parnes wrote the book Shattered, professing still_one Jun 2019 #19
There is no excuse for Biden's support for the Hyde Amendment. For whatever reason it was good that still_one Jun 2019 #16
I think it's telling that Jonathan Allen didn't present what Biden actually said. George II Jun 2019 #18
I agree. still_one Jun 2019 #23
Remember Jonathan Allen Cha Jun 2019 #46
Yes, him and Amy Parnes still_one Jun 2019 #48
The Hyde Amendment PatSeg Jun 2019 #20
We see you... SidDithers Jun 2019 #24
Why don't you answer your own question? Did he say he might REVERT? George II Jun 2019 #25
It's called Betteridge's Law of Headlines: sop Jun 2019 #27
You'll of course, rationalize he didn't say that in such as way as to strengthen your bias, yes? LanternWaste Jun 2019 #26
Joe Biden Loves Lamp jberryhill Jun 2019 #47
No Hekate Jun 2019 #55
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