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Celerity

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41. revert is an accurate paraphrase to what Biden's intent was in his own speech

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 03:20 PM

Jun 2019

You are playing semantic words games to try and deflect from what Biden said and not operating in good faith. You are trying to bend and twist and twist and bend, trying to falsely frame and to imbue doubt all because the basic gist of the OP has been borne out to be accurate and you do not like it.

I am done here, I refuse to participate in (here is that word again) a disingenuous colloquy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Did Joe Biden say he might REVERT to favoring the Hyde Amendment in the FUTURE !?! [View all] uawchild Jun 2019 OP

let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #1

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #2

Schrodinger's Biden /nt tonedevil Jun 2019 #3

Good one. nt shanny Jun 2019 #4

LMFAO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #51

Does the Evolving Door turn both ways? jalan48 Jun 2019 #5

Apparently, but, hopefully, Joe's political advisers will soon straighten out their messaging. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #53

Does anyone think this can be kept alive until the primaries MineralMan Jun 2019 #6

Agreed. Well said. ancianita Jun 2019 #7

"kept alive until the primaries"? No. crazytown Jun 2019 #8

Until it isn't his position... again... WoonTars Jun 2019 #9

There will be more opportunities for the Biden Excuse machine. n/t MarcA Jun 2019 #12

Whipping the Dead Horse is . . . peggysue2 Jun 2019 #31

This seems so out of touch with current reality and current politics. enough Jun 2019 #10

So a month ago the article says he was in favor of walking back on the Hyde Amendment OKNancy Jun 2019 #11

And unfortunately now an "analyst" has to make something up without actually quoting Biden. George II Jun 2019 #17

No, his campaign said he misheard the question from the ACLU activist, claimed he thought it was Celerity Jun 2019 #21

When did he say "he may REVERT BACK TO BEING FOR IT"? That's the second time I've seen this here. George II Jun 2019 #22

You will have to ask the NBC reporter Allen, unless you are accusing him of making it up out of Celerity Jun 2019 #28

Then I'll take it that Biden never said it. The other reference earlier on DU was also from Allen. George II Jun 2019 #29

I will try and find confirmation, but it is disingenuous to try and and shift it immediately to Celerity Jun 2019 #30

Full remarks here melman Jun 2019 #32

It's clear that the paraphrase in the OP article is accurate. uawchild Jun 2019 #33

Not even close. But if one wants it to "read" that way, one can read it that way. George II Jun 2019 #50

thanks for digging this up Celerity Jun 2019 #36

How does that say, hint, or imply that he could change his mind ("revert") on what he had just said? George II Jun 2019 #49

Not a good look... Joe needs to work with his advisers to get his messaging down. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #54

Well, Allen did a long article about Biden's stance yesterday.... George II Jun 2019 #34

well to be fair, Biden was not very linear with his word flow, but he did say it, and here it is Celerity Jun 2019 #35

If one attributes a statement to a candidate, the least one should do is quote it directly.... George II Jun 2019 #37

I just gave you the transcript of Bidens own words, where he says it, roflmaoooo Celerity Jun 2019 #38

Yes you did, but unless I missed it, he never said or even implied that he would "revert". George II Jun 2019 #39

revert is an accurate paraphrase to what Biden's intent was in his own speech Celerity Jun 2019 #41

I'm not playing semantics, I just don't see even a hint of what is being claimed, not a hint.... George II Jun 2019 #42

my last reply Celerity Jun 2019 #43

I did, twice and also the bigger excerpt (which has the same words) twice..... George II Jun 2019 #44

It's right there in his words... tonedevil Jun 2019 #52

Never got an answer melman Jun 2019 #56

I didn't expect much else. /nt tonedevil Jun 2019 #57

diminishing returns uawchild Jun 2019 #40

Jonathan Allen is one Cha Jun 2019 #45

Mental self-gratification NYMinute Jun 2019 #13

Curious how he leads off what he's going to say with the fact that he's making no apologies. Demit Jun 2019 #14

I'm afraid you're right. JudyM Jun 2019 #58

Where/when did he say that? Notice the article didn't use any of Biden's exact words.... George II Jun 2019 #15

I wouldn't rely on Johnathan Allen, who along with Amy Parnes wrote the book Shattered, professing still_one Jun 2019 #19

There is no excuse for Biden's support for the Hyde Amendment. For whatever reason it was good that still_one Jun 2019 #16

I think it's telling that Jonathan Allen didn't present what Biden actually said. George II Jun 2019 #18

I agree. still_one Jun 2019 #23

Remember Jonathan Allen Cha Jun 2019 #46

Yes, him and Amy Parnes still_one Jun 2019 #48

The Hyde Amendment PatSeg Jun 2019 #20

We see you... SidDithers Jun 2019 #24

Why don't you answer your own question? Did he say he might REVERT? George II Jun 2019 #25

It's called Betteridge's Law of Headlines: sop Jun 2019 #27

You'll of course, rationalize he didn't say that in such as way as to strengthen your bias, yes? LanternWaste Jun 2019 #26

Joe Biden Loves Lamp jberryhill Jun 2019 #47

No Hekate Jun 2019 #55