Democratic Primaries

Uncle Joe

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62. Today's response is better.

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:18 PM

Jun 2019

Social security and Medicare are popular and much needed socialistic policies, however both could be improved and strengthened.

Should Bernie or any other progressive candidate for that matter allow the Republicans to argue that popular policies are socialism and thus inherently evil without defining precisely what said candidate actually views their own ideological personal perspective as, does nothing but cede the battle field and allows him/her to be defined by their opponents.

This allowing of the Republicans and their corporate media conglomerate allies to dictate the narrative with no strong counter argument makes even incremental improvement to popular social programs exceedingly difficult.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Sanders to give speech defending 'democratic socialism' [View all] Uncle Joe Jun 2019 OP

Oh boy Loki Liesmith Jun 2019 #1

You said it... Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #13

Yep. He keeps chewing on that bone. He needs to let it go. Socialism... brush Jun 2019 #20

Good for him. More people need to be educated on the different flavors dalton99a Jun 2019 #2

Democratic Socialism is not Social Democracy. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #39

Well, that ought to work out real well. MineralMan Jun 2019 #3

Been there, done that.... George II Jun 2019 #4

Well, if he's determined to fall below the 15% cutoff, MineralMan Jun 2019 #5

Well, if Bernie said in APRIL that government should work for all, not just the few, who Doitnow Jun 2019 #9

Well, OK, then... MineralMan Jun 2019 #10

I like Warren too, but Bernie cleared the path for her by raising these issues to the foreground. JudyM Jun 2019 #11

Warren said she's "a capitalist to her bones." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #41

Perhaps you've forgotten that in 2015 most progressives were urging... brush Jun 2019 #17

Courage of his convictions uawchild Jun 2019 #12

I have no interest in alienating anyone's followers. MineralMan Jun 2019 #14

+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #27

The answer, my friend, isn't spittin' in the wind...the answer's not spittin' in the wind. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #6

I will loan you my handkerchief after the speech. Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #16

Go ahead and shoot yourself in the foot Bernie! comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #7

If you have to explain, murielm99 Jun 2019 #8

"... creating a government and an economy and a society" left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #15

Funny you used that gif . . . since Danny is a supporter of Bernie! Nanjeanne Jun 2019 #19

"Funny you used that gif " left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #21

I don't want a socialist replacement, another sort of dictatorship. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #42

Good... lunamagica Jun 2019 #18

Much Ado About Not Much colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #22

That's not democratic socialism Loki Liesmith Jun 2019 #23

"seize" or perhaps an eventual, gradual transformation? uawchild Jun 2019 #24

Rather than self interest, individuals serve the collective, crazytown Jun 2019 #25

"Seize" is the classical Marxist term Loki Liesmith Jun 2019 #30

carpe diem crazytown Jun 2019 #36

Good. any linguist will tell you language is a living thing.it changes and grows. Kurt V. Jun 2019 #26

Perplexed qazplm135 Jun 2019 #28

he can't JI7 Jun 2019 #29

And a little icing on top MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #32

Bernie Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #37

and? qazplm135 Jun 2019 #43

Yes Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #44

lol qazplm135 Jun 2019 #45

I Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #46

oh stop qazplm135 Jun 2019 #47

The Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #48

what does that have to do qazplm135 Jun 2019 #49

I Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #53

lol qazplm135 Jun 2019 #54

No, Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #55

Then he's already losing. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #31

Desperation move, IMO. He's losing supporters to Warren, is hoping to turn this into an ideological highplainsdem Jun 2019 #33

It's pretty good for Warren though. comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #34

Well, this is gonna go over like a fart in church... SKKY Jun 2019 #35

This is why I think Bernie's wheels are spinning in the mud... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #38

In the 1980 primary Ted Kennedy made a speech at Georgetown defending traditional liberalism. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #40

Ted was a much better speaker. nt Blue_true Jun 2019 #57

Cool. Looking forward to it. Politicub Jun 2019 #50

Good points all. His DU supporters seem to not really know where he stands. Blue_true Jun 2019 #58

Please proceed Senator crazytown Jun 2019 #51

Socialism is a loser BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #52

I agree. nt Blue_true Jun 2019 #59

How long are we going to allow the Republicans to control the narrative? Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #60

The response then was "it's not socialism..." brooklynite Jun 2019 #61

Today's response is better. Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #62

Just my 2c, but you don't seem to be convincing a lot of people here... brooklynite Jun 2019 #63

Time will tell Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #64

Know what WOULD be easy? brooklynite Jun 2019 #65

Should be interesting in many ways. nt Blue_true Jun 2019 #56

He's giving the GOP a whole lot of ammunition there. nolabear Jun 2019 #66

I really seems to me many of Bernie's supporters unintentionally disrespect the man. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #67