Democratic Primaries

Drunken Irishman

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39. I agree but first impressions are huge in politics.

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:47 PM

Jun 2019

A lot of Americans' first impression of Howard Dean was the Dean Scream and even today, it dominates his perception even though it's a very small aspect of who he is, or what kind of campaign he ran.

Some politicians can overcome bad first impressions. Bill Clinton was largely introduced to the nation via his affair with Gennifer Flowers. Of course, his response probably aided him - but he overcame it to win the primary and then the general.

It remains to be seen if Warren can overcome that or if it'll play a larger role in a campaign where she's more visible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Elizabeth Warren Quietly Moves Into Second Place [View all] DonViejo Jun 2019 OP

She should do well in debates. She is a brilliant educator. nt tblue37 Jun 2019 #1

And she's absolutely fiery in her sense of conviction. calimary Jun 2019 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #33

You know Liz's convictions are from her gut. democrank Jun 2019 #71

"Just behind Joe Biden?" He has a double digit lead on her. MineralMan Jun 2019 #2

:) Consider the source. But Warren is passing Sanders. Hortensis Jun 2019 #13

I'm afraid that Senator Sanders is not wearing well with MineralMan Jun 2019 #15

No doubt. Reportedly lasting until the Iowa caucus Hortensis Jun 2019 #34

Warren is a better salesman for the progressive agenda. Bernie has not evolved as a campaigner TeamPooka Jun 2019 #49

Yes, she is by far. Let's not forget the enormous, devastating Hortensis Jun 2019 #56

Warren has always had my vote Boomer Jun 2019 #72

yeah, no. she played it perfectly. imho, mopinko Jun 2019 #46

The problem for Biden is I can't see Sanders supporters ever switching to him pnwmom Jun 2019 #60

That probably doesn't matter all that much in the primaries. MineralMan Jun 2019 #74

It will be critical if no one ends up with more than 50% and it goes to a brokered convention.nt pnwmom Jun 2019 #78

There won't be a brokered convention. MineralMan Jun 2019 #79

And people will drop out and endorse each other and we could end up pnwmom Jun 2019 #80

By the time of the convention, you'll see that one candidate has MineralMan Jun 2019 #81

I was talking about the primaries, not the convention. pnwmom Jun 2019 #82

I can't predict, but it will all depend on the primary votes. MineralMan Jun 2019 #83

Yes, yes, YES!!! n/t Brainstormy Jun 2019 #3

Good!!!! katmondoo Jun 2019 #4

Warrenmentum! Greg K Jun 2019 #5

I am appreciative of the fact that there are multiple NoMoreRepugs Jun 2019 #6

Great for Warren! If given the chance to speak, she's going to do well in the debates... Politicub Jun 2019 #7

She persisted. oasis Jun 2019 #8

she did! Ive got that t shirt and a lot of women comment on it! samnsara Jun 2019 #40

Definitely nervous. Warren generally polls the worst against Trump... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #9

I don't think she has the recognition of either Biden or Sanders HopeAgain Jun 2019 #16

It is early but it is a valid concern. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #20

No, not really.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #23

Polls showed Hillary leading... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #36

If Such Is So.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #47

I was pointing to state polls. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #48

A lot of people know only her for the Pocahontas dig. marylandblue Jun 2019 #38

I agree but first impressions are huge in politics. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #39

Clinton's response definitely made the difference. marylandblue Jun 2019 #44

I think HILLARY Clinton was the big help - she aggressively defended Clinton and backed him karynnj Jun 2019 #64

Yes I was surprised she could not defend herself as vigorously as she defended Bill. marylandblue Jun 2019 #69

I suspect that it is always easier to defend someone else - especially some one you love or admire karynnj Jun 2019 #70

You made good points here. blm Jun 2019 #77

I Like Her Passion yellowwoodII Jun 2019 #10

Warren is going to be our Nominee in 2020 uawchild Jun 2019 #11

No she will not! Bookmark it! Nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #22

Warren or Buttigieg. I prefer Buttigieg, but Warren is more likely, and my second choice. marylandblue Jun 2019 #41

That would be fine with me! Qutzupalotl Jun 2019 #55

I think as time wears on, Biden will drop and Warren will lead. nt Javaman Jun 2019 #12

As her exposure widens, so will her appeal pecosbob Jun 2019 #17

We're all looking for something genuine... B Stieg Jun 2019 #18

Props to Senator Warren FakeNoose Jun 2019 #19

She's Doing The Work..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #21

I'm glad to see her moving up. brer cat Jun 2019 #24

I would love... Catch2.2 Jun 2019 #25

Policy & Passion are a STRONG combination malchickiwick Jun 2019 #26

Good. I like her a lot. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #27

Agreed. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #28

If he stays true to 2016 form, he won't. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #30

Yeah I supported him in 2016 Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #32

I would love to see a battle between Warren and Biden. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #29

The image I see is pecosbob Jun 2019 #37

Have you heard her lately? She tells wonderful stories about her family femmedem Jun 2019 #65

That makes me happy. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #31

There is greatness in Warren's character Ponietz Jun 2019 #35

Polls generate interest but are pretty meaningless until after the first debate. Ligyron Jun 2019 #42

I'm glad to see it spinbaby Jun 2019 #43

I definitely support Warren. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #45

I can't get that Jefferson's theme song out of my head backtoblue Jun 2019 #50

If Sanders really cared about the nation and defeating trump, he would withdraw and lunamagica Jun 2019 #51

Yeah for Senator Warren Gothmog Jun 2019 #52

I like the fact that Warren and Sanders occupy second and third spots. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #53

GO LIZ! 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #54

Yea for Elizabeth! She is working hard. Irishxs Jun 2019 #57

I like the story she told to Chris Hayes KrazyinKS Jun 2019 #58

Liz will kick Trumps ass 1 on 1 saljr1 Jun 2019 #59

Very nice, Elizabeth Warren. Very nice. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #61

Good! G_j Jun 2019 #62

The debates should be interesting.. ariesgem Jun 2019 #63

Definitely siphoning off Sanders supporters madville Jun 2019 #66

I love hearing this!!!!! nt Quixote1818 Jun 2019 #67

I can't wait until the debates. And I'm getting so f**king excited about Liz. ancianita Jun 2019 #68

She is like the perfect school principle, the one who refused to leave anyone behind. McCamy Taylor Jun 2019 #73

Go Liz! jimlup Jun 2019 #75

She Is Coming On Strong colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #76