Democratic Primaries

mr_lebowski

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29. I for one agree with you whole-heartedly MM, as is typical ...

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:03 PM

Jun 2019

It's not a winning issue at the FOREFRONT of one's campaign. Needs to be part of it, yes, absolutely. But it's not going win anyone the primary or the WH in 2020.

Too complex, no short term solution. In fact I'd even argue there's actually NO SOLUTION that doesn't involve about 1/2 the worlds population ... DYING. And a LOT of them in developed countries.

That, or a socialist-style, highly-powerful and extremely science-centric world government that manages the economy, wealth-accumulation, travel, jobs, resources, etc.

There are no real solutions outside those two at this point. We waited too long.

Laissez-faire capitalism ... with it's 'constant growth' paradigm ... for all it's great points and successes ... has caused this problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why Climate Change Is Dangerous for Democratic Presidential Candidates [View all] MineralMan Jun 2019 OP

You and I agree on most things MM.. but on this one we do not Peacetrain Jun 2019 #1

The problem is that it cannot be explained easily. MineralMan Jun 2019 #2

In the heat of a political campaign, a clear-immediate-fix, works far better. empedocles Jun 2019 #3

Yes. Political campaigns are about immediacy. MineralMan Jun 2019 #5

You are right.. it is something people want to run from.. but MM Peacetrain Jun 2019 #8

In a political campaign, votes are what matter, frankly. MineralMan Jun 2019 #20

MM it is here..now Peacetrain Jun 2019 #24

Yes, I know it is. MineralMan Jun 2019 #26

I have a son.. 31.. and I fully understand what you are saying.. Peacetrain Jun 2019 #27

MM is just saying it's not a path to winning on the campaign trail for a 2020 candidate mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #28

Agreed, Peacetrain HerbChestnut Jun 2019 #6

I was just posting to someone else ..we have to get in the republicans faces.. Peacetrain Jun 2019 #12

No, Climate change is an issue that is being ignored by the government walkingman Jun 2019 #4

All of us here are "different" from other voters. MineralMan Jun 2019 #7

So is your recommendation that Climate Change be ignored? From what I read it is a BIG issue walkingman Jun 2019 #13

Not at all. I'm suggesting that it be acknowledged and promises be MineralMan Jun 2019 #14

Message delivery on important issues matters Indygram Jun 2019 #9

There are actually things to do that have been shown to work. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #10

Most of the measures being suggested merely slow it down. MineralMan Jun 2019 #11

Yes. As I said. We can't reverse it at this point, even w/extreme measures. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #21

Well, I think SOME young people have it high on their priority list. MineralMan Jun 2019 #23

Warren has a pretty good take greenman3610 Jun 2019 #15

Yes. She has a good approach. MineralMan Jun 2019 #16

First proof of commitment to fixing the climate crisis is commitment Hortensis Jun 2019 #17

Yes. Identify the magnitude of the problem, promise decisive action, and move on to MineralMan Jun 2019 #18

And also hit the many new, good paying jobs and advances Hortensis Jun 2019 #22

I disagree with you that Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #25

Concern's real. Expertise is not. Last time I checked Hortensis Jun 2019 #30

That's why I support their efforts; to get people to vote. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #32

Sure, but their "doing something" is raising awareness. Hortensis Jun 2019 #34

You're right. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #19

I for one agree with you whole-heartedly MM, as is typical ... mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #29

I think we can partially mitigate global warming and slow it down MineralMan Jun 2019 #31

Agree with your convincing case, point by point. Our priority should be to put a Dem in office. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #33

As long as climate change is seen as a job killer, it is a loser LibFarmer Jun 2019 #35

Has anyone seen the forcast MFM008 Jun 2019 #36

Please read the thread. MineralMan Jun 2019 #37