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R B Garr

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33. There would have been no Iraq war except for the purity

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:16 PM

Jun 2019

lies about Gore. That’s what enabled Bush to take power and that is what is responsible for Iraq. Most people know this. All this was close to 20 years ago now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Joe Biden Says He's Ready To Handle The World. He Got Iraq Wrong Three Times. [View all] DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 OP

Add another notch to the believer in the Hatch Act. trev Jun 2019 #1

Oh please DownriverDem Jun 2019 #22

Who can beat tRump? In current polling, all of our top five candidates shanny Jun 2019 #29

So you really believe that polls 1.5 years out fallout87 Jun 2019 #55

well, the answer to that just writes itself: shanny Jun 2019 #57

It's a matter of history of belief and action. trev Jun 2019 #37

Oh please. Recent polling shows all of our top Dems can beat Trumps ass. Autumn Jun 2019 #68

He didn't "get Iraq wrong three times." George II Jun 2019 #2

Iraq is a manufactured country qazplm135 Jun 2019 #3

Too few people actually know what the votes in the House and Senate were for.... George II Jun 2019 #4

oh of course there was qazplm135 Jun 2019 #7

No, they didn't. The vote said that only if WMD's were found could there be an invasion -- pnwmom Jun 2019 #41

I remember it very well. They said they had in fact found WMDs. marylandblue Jun 2019 #46

Obama wasn't in Congress then, so he didn't have the responsibility. They were hoping that pnwmom Jun 2019 #49

Yes Obama had an advantage Biden did not. So did I. marylandblue Jun 2019 #58

no, it did not say that qazplm135 Jun 2019 #63

I've always found this line of thinking to be well...nonsense. tritsofme Jun 2019 #13

The bill that they voted on contained conditions that Iraq was supposed have complied with.... George II Jun 2019 #15

Absolute nonsense. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #18

It's not nonsense at all. The Democrats supported it in order to enforce pnwmom Jun 2019 #42

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #43

Hans Blix bio still available on Google. nt oasis Jun 2019 #48

Conditions that Bush alone "determined" whether or not they were met. tritsofme Jun 2019 #21

No, they didn't. Ted Kennedy said he voted against it only because of information pnwmom Jun 2019 #44

The resolution asked Bush to look at a fluid situation and make a judgement call. tritsofme Jun 2019 #50

If the Ds hadn't helped pass that resolution with restrictions, they knew that in January pnwmom Jun 2019 #53

The 2002 AUMF amounted to a blank check, as it was passed. tritsofme Jun 2019 #62

I knew Powell was lying because he said Iraq did not have WMDs in 2001. marylandblue Jun 2019 #69

An administration full of warmongers wasn't "considered" by the yes voters? SMC22307 Jun 2019 #86

Yes that power to make the sole determination is the blank check marylandblue Jun 2019 #52

yes qazplm135 Jun 2019 #61

Some folks DownriverDem Jun 2019 #23

Yup!! Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #76

Support Democrats snowybirdie Jun 2019 #5

Opposition to the Iraq war is not a right wing talking point. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #19

Move on DownriverDem Jun 2019 #24

We don't even know how almost 20 of our candidates would have voted, they weren't in a position.... George II Jun 2019 #27

+1 shanny Jun 2019 #30

Opposing neo/Con talking points is neither false nor misleading. n/t MarcA Jun 2019 #60

It's a reasonable question loyalsister Jun 2019 #6

The question DownriverDem Jun 2019 #25

asked and answered post #29 shanny Jun 2019 #31

How did Pete vote on the bill? Oh yeah, he didn't. Unreasonable to "challenge".... George II Jun 2019 #28

Except for when he was doing the real work loyalsister Jun 2019 #38

I support the policy of not criticizing Democrats on DU, but.... renate Jun 2019 #51

let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #8

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jun 2019 #14

Joe remains the most qualified both nationally and internationally. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #9

Yes!!! He does Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #77

Haven't been huffpost for ages awesomerwb1 Jun 2019 #10

I'm sick of seeing ISIS being put at the feet of Democrats. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #11

ISIS is the direct product of bush's actions early in the war. Remember, about two weeks after.... George II Jun 2019 #16

Wasn't your candidate a Republican who voted for Reagan at one time? redstateblues Jun 2019 #12

Almost everyone in the country voted for Reagan. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #79

Biden does seem to be a hawk. Not sure how this will really affect his chances. Politicub Jun 2019 #17

Poor judgement on the biggest votes in decades. jalan48 Jun 2019 #20

It's not that simple. DownriverDem Jun 2019 #26

The tone of the times trev Jun 2019 #40

That's exactly right....so why are others singling out biden if not to just try and drag him down Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #78

I don't know. trev Jun 2019 #83

The tone of the times required foresight and leadership on the part of Democratic leaders. jalan48 Jun 2019 #65

The vote to authorize war are votes of conscience and judgment. BlueWI Jun 2019 #70

Most Democratic Senators voted the same as Biden. honest.abe Jun 2019 #32

Who do we get to blame except for the people who voted for it? shanny Jun 2019 #34

I blame Bush and Cheney and neocons. honest.abe Jun 2019 #35

And they needed to pay dearly for that. shanny Jun 2019 #36

That means 21 dem senators (42%) had the guts to vote no. PassingFair Jun 2019 #56

sure qazplm135 Jun 2019 #64

I didnt say he wasn't wrong. He was wrong.. he also admitted he was wrong. honest.abe Jun 2019 #66

sure qazplm135 Jun 2019 #67

It's not about forgiveness, IMO BlueWI Jun 2019 #71

Its more about assigning blame.. IMO honest.abe Jun 2019 #72

I haven't written them off. BlueWI Jun 2019 #87

There would have been no Iraq war except for the purity R B Garr Jun 2019 #33

Who got it right? Who has the "Right" plan? ashredux Jun 2019 #39

The 2002 IWR vote is an unshakable litmus test for me Martin Eden Jun 2019 #45

+1 PassingFair Jun 2019 #74

"The majority of our representatives got it right. The rest were a huge disappointment." Martin Eden Jun 2019 #75

I was also a Howard Dean supporter. PassingFair Jun 2019 #81

I went to Ohio to GOTV on election day 2004 Martin Eden Jun 2019 #82

For some reason, this post reminds me of what another Joe once sang: JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #47

The PNAC & a gullible GW Bush deserve all the blame for Iraq. CaptainTruth Jun 2019 #54

Joe did not get Iraq "wrong" NYMinute Jun 2019 #59

Were you not old enough to remember? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #73

Yes, he did zipplewrath Jun 2019 #80

OMG, that is by far the most hilarious post of the month. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #85

One of the many reasons I can't get enthused about Biden. SMC22307 Jun 2019 #84