Democratic Primaries

zipplewrath

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53. But what's the result

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:24 PM

Jun 2019

we've seen 18+ years of absolute obstructionism on the part of the GOP and you want to point to some vague "under the radar" actions that have no consequence? They've actually "done" nothing. They are stacking the courts. They have filled the agencies with their "under the radar" civil servants. They have allies in every department who will out live this administration in civil service jobs. Where is this "evidence" of which you speak in anything other than wishful thinking of a guy that reminisces for a time that is long past?

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Biden: Work to Compromise with GOP, or Might as Well 'Go Home' or Start 'Real Physical Revolution' [View all] BeyondGeography Jun 2019 OP

It's not that we can't work with them vlyons Jun 2019 #1

He said that, among other things BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #2

His response was very clear to me. Let's dump the RW talking points. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #4

This Republican epiphany thing is going to keep coming up BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #6

Let's also dump the left wing talking points. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #74

We often blame the speaker for our inability to listen. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #70

lol...ok BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #73

so there are two alternatives qazplm135 Jun 2019 #7

FWIW an "abusive" aka strong President ala LBJ. n/t MarcA Jun 2019 #10

Amen The Liberal Lion Jun 2019 #11

YES, and SHAME THEM, BLACKMAIL THEM.. I don't care. ! pangaia Jun 2019 #26

This. marylandblue Jun 2019 #43

Win the Senate and kill the filibuster eom BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #15

so you want to criticize qazplm135 Jun 2019 #16

No, just filling out your incomplete list of alternatives BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #17

Lol qazplm135 Jun 2019 #22

actually part of the hypothetical was McConnell in the minority and filibustering dsc Jun 2019 #29

pretty sure qazplm135 Jun 2019 #32

There's no mystery what would happen if Warren won and we had the Senate BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #35

sure there is qazplm135 Jun 2019 #87

Lol...Warren might have a little more credibility than Trump BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #88

with the republican party?? qazplm135 Jun 2019 #90

The only way any policy's get past including warrens is to eliminate the filibuster otherwise nothin FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #58

You're saying there's literally nothing we can offer any Republicans to play ball? Recursion Jun 2019 #68

Yes--nothing! shanny Jun 2019 #80

I do. It is possible for a discilpined minority to stop almost all legislation. We're doing it too. Recursion Jun 2019 #81

if we keep the filibuster, that is true. shanny Jun 2019 #84

Oh hell no. The filibuster is why we still have the ACA Recursion Jun 2019 #67

It's also why we have the ACA without a public option BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #69

No. The skinny repeal of the ACA was a regular vote. crazytown Jun 2019 #71

And it lost because McCain objected to the irregularity of the order Recursion Jun 2019 #72

The whole thing was off-putting. demmiblue Jun 2019 #3

He got right in her face at the beginning there BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #14

He uses that line about the example of our power/power of our example at every event. Demit Jun 2019 #21

If Bernie got in Joy's face the way Biden did the anti-Berners would be shouting game, set, match BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #23

You got that right melman Jun 2019 #25

He's not a good campaigner. shanny Jun 2019 #56

I'll say. Demit Jun 2019 #61

+1 shanny Jun 2019 #65

He is notorious for self destructing his presidential campaigns. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #75

Same here. shanny Jun 2019 #77

STILL NOT my BlueMTexpat Jun 2019 #5

I do hope we can get a Strong Dem Senate field organized for 2020. n/t MarcA Jun 2019 #8

The epiphany will happen if we try hard enough dalton99a Jun 2019 #9

yes - try harder and don't forget the thoughts and prayers! ;) floppyboo Jun 2019 #50

Why does he not realize they have zero interest in compromise and cooperation? LonePirate Jun 2019 #12

Obama was optimistic about working with republicans loyalsister Jun 2019 #41

Because he has had great success working with them in the past. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #48

Touche! LonePirate Jun 2019 #49

AMEN floppyboo Jun 2019 #51

Bingo. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #76

. Otto Lidenbrock Jun 2019 #13

Biden is signalling his willingness to compromise with them, even though he knows they won't. earthshine Jun 2019 #18

Why Bernie Sanders Loves the Most Conservative Man in the Senate Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #19

Your post has nothing to do with mine. earthshine Jun 2019 #20

Really... Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #24

"First of all, I really like Dick Cheney, for real. I get on with him, I think he's a decent man," Autumn Jun 2019 #28

I don't think there is a comparison. earthshine Jun 2019 #31

See, Sanders and Biden are exactly the same. /sarc Politicub Jun 2019 #33

Oh - Biden and Sanders are definitely not the same - one is winning!!! Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #36

Sorry, there's nothing here to back up your claim peggysue2 Jun 2019 #34

You mean like the way they met Obama halfway? earthshine Jun 2019 #39

"Shaming McConnell" ? Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #40

Reminds me of something saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #27

I don't think Joy Reid is the naive one in this exchange. Politicub Jun 2019 #30

We saw here in Illinois some state GOP'ers working with a newly elected democratic governor, a beachbum bob Jun 2019 #37

O M G. Words fail me. Say it ain't so that you said these things, Joe. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #38

Some think it important to listen to their POV randr Jun 2019 #42

There is contemporaneous evidence that supports Biden Kaleva Jun 2019 #44

But what's the result zipplewrath Jun 2019 #53

The First Step Act was a bipartisan effort. Kaleva Jun 2019 #59

Good zipplewrath Jun 2019 #60

Never in our history have the two parties agreed most of the time. Kaleva Jun 2019 #79

Forget it, Joe. Shame is not in their vocabulary. defacto7 Jun 2019 #45

Congressional Democrats and Republicans mostly agree.on foreign policy. marylandblue Jun 2019 #46

WaPo's review: Biden gets muted reception at poverty-fighting event BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #47

McConnell has no shame kimbutgar Jun 2019 #52

I would be interested in knowing how a Biden Presidency would differ from Raven123 Jun 2019 #54

You can't shame people who have none. shanny Jun 2019 #55

full Biden appearance. floppyboo Jun 2019 #57

That was depressing. I'm not sure he could hold up against Trump in a debate. thesquanderer Jun 2019 #62

Perfunctory - "let's get it over with", "I wanna get the hell outta here" dalton99a Jun 2019 #63

Oh my. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #64

consensus? myohmy2 Jun 2019 #66

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #78

No one will win... Skid Rogue Jun 2019 #82

Oddly enough Trump won the votes of Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #83

Well, you've got... Skid Rogue Jun 2019 #86

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #85

After eight years under Obama G_j Jun 2019 #89