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Democratic Primaries

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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:36 AM Mar 2019

Democrats won't debate on Fox News. They'd stand a better chance in 2020 if they did. [View all]

Washington Post

One common misconception about Fox News is that it’s filled with wall-to-wall programming and personalities boosting Trump and his every utterance — a frequent charge of the network’s critics. True, some hosts, such as Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham, support the president and do not hide it. But these are the proprietors of opinion programs, and they are no different from opinion columnists like The Washington Post’s Paul Waldman and the New York Times’ Charles Blow, or MSNBC’s Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow. On the news side at Fox, several anchors refuse to toe the Trump line and remain devoted to solid reporting of stories and discussion of issues. (Full disclosure: I am an occasional guest on news and opinion shows on Fox News and Fox Business, and I am not compensated for these appearances.)

There is an immediate, highly relevant historical example here: the third and final presidential debate between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in October 2016. Fox News’s Chris Wallace hosted it, and figures from the left and the right cheered his work. The New Yorker’s television critic, Emily Nussbaum, tweeted: “Gotta say, Chris Wallace is a pro. Cool demeanor, asking clear follow-ups,” while the New York Times wrote that Wallace “mixed humor with scolding and persistence with patience to guide his charges toward the most substantive encounter of an unusually vicious election.”

Lower-profile and lower-stakes coverage follows basic journalistic principles, too. Harris Faulkner earned praise from Slate, a frequent Fox News antagonist, for a segment discussing gun policy that she moderated in 2017 (note: I was one of the participants). Anchors Shepard Smith, Neil Cavuto, Dana Perino, Martha MacCallum, Bret Baier and others have also repeatedly received plaudits for their devotion to presenting the truth. Does the DNC think they have suddenly abandoned those values? (Mayer’s piece alleged that a Fox News reporter was told to kill a story about Trump’s affair with Stormy Daniels. Even if true, the executives who made the decision are no longer with Fox News.)

Further, since the 2016 election, Democrats have openly discussed their desire to win over Trump voters -- many of whom are Fox News viewers. According to Nielsen, the network’s viewers are 94 percent white and have a median age of 65: exactly the demographic in which Democrats will need to make headway in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Even if fox news continues its criminal tilting the debate practices? empedocles Mar 2019 #1
I think they should appear on Fox. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #2
Counterpoint EarlG Mar 2019 #3
+1 2naSalit Mar 2019 #4
I agree! Iliyah Mar 2019 #8
Yes .... and moreover forklift Mar 2019 #36
Your "counterpoint", EarlG, is Cha Mar 2019 #82
Bullshit. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #5
Bernie will debate anywhere, anytime with his winning message!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #6
I just want to see the tax returns. Any progress being made there? NurseJackie Mar 2019 #9
You will see Bernie's tax returns; as he said, just a few more things to do and they'll be released. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #11
LOL! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #13
Like I said... NOTHING will ever be good enough. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #14
It's my believe that as a nation, we are better served when candidates strive to EXCEED the minimum... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #18
Nothing! Ever! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #19
Excuses and delays and avoidance will never be good enough. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #20
Thanks for proving my point... so predictable. Never enough if we're talking about Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #23
I've done no such thing and you know it. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #24
You proved it again...thanks! I believe Bernie that he'll release his returns soon enough... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #42
He'll have to release them for it to be "good enough". NurseJackie Mar 2019 #44
I get it... but then he'll release his returns well before the first vote InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #49
I doubt it. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #57
No, you STILL don't get it... AFTER Berneie complies with your demand, THAT won't be good enough!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #60
Except for the fact that he hasn't "complied fully". NurseJackie Mar 2019 #62
Oh, okay, so now you're saying "it WILL be good enough" when Bernie does follow through... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #64
But you and I both know that he won't comply. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #66
Oh, okay, so now you're saying "it WILL be good enough" when Bernie does follow through... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #65
But you and I both know that he won't comply. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #67
We don't agree? I thought you said it will be good enough if Bernie does follow through InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #68
That will never happen. Never. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #69
Yes, but at least we agree that IF Bernie DOES provide his tax returns, that'll be good enough. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #70
Where are these tax returns? Gothmog Mar 2019 #47
You'll get them soon enough... but, with Bernie, nothing will satisfy some. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #51
This isn't 1968. Nobody believes that the "only copies" of the last ten years of tax returns are... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #63
What's funny is you think being predictable is a one way street. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #34
My thought on the tax returns greymattermom Mar 2019 #76
Well now... that's a very interesting theory. It certainly makes sense. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #78
Well Put Jackie Me. Mar 2019 #80
When will these returns be released? Gothmog Mar 2019 #81
When they're released. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #85
Where are the tax returns Gothmog Mar 2019 #84
That's not really fair BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #33
Someone should let her know that you can "print" to a PDF file... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #35
Oh lord, print to PDF? BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #37
Won't happen. awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #56
Oh, that's funny NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #29
A few more things to do? mcar Mar 2019 #39
Well.....how about staple them together? awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #58
What's to do? I presume the last several years have already been filed with the IRS..... George II Mar 2019 #43
Gonna give you props for enthusiasm, IABS. susanna Mar 2019 #73
I will bookmark this. Tipperary Mar 2019 #77
What is your definition of soon? Gothmog Mar 2019 #79
I agree .. there must be a valid excuse forklift Mar 2019 #38
Understand reasons for not doing it, just think it's better to educate ignorant white wingers in Hoyt Mar 2019 #7
Agree patricia92243 Mar 2019 #10
Even if they did... Shell_Seas Mar 2019 #12
Consider the following analogy... brooklynite Mar 2019 #15
I have staffed candidates in red counties crazycatlady Mar 2019 #22
Fox News hosted a Presidential debate between Clinton and Trump (Chris Wallace moderating) brooklynite Mar 2019 #25
Would the average Fox viewer even consider a Democrat? crazycatlady Mar 2019 #16
Bullshit. Ds have realized that winning over tRump voters is a fool's errand. stopbush Mar 2019 #17
They're deplorable... why bother with that scum?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #50
While it's true that Shepard Smith FoxNewsSucks Mar 2019 #21
Comment by future candidate Eric Swalwell... brooklynite Mar 2019 #26
So silly, if they were open-minded they wouldn't watch FAUX. SharonClark Mar 2019 #40
Yes Zambero Mar 2019 #27
No. Legitimizing a propaganda platform that aims to destroy the left is insane. shanny Mar 2019 #28
foxnews needs to be isolated and marginalized and dismissed as biased, fringe propaganda. unblock Mar 2019 #30
NO Debates on Fox. ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Vogon_Glory Mar 2019 #31
I'm with you!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #52
Agree 100%!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #74
The writer's opinion is worthless. LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #32
The author of the OP is a gop strategist and I discount his views Gothmog Mar 2019 #46
Any fox news viewer Andy823 Mar 2019 #41
It's time -- high time -- to take Fox News's destructive role in America seriously, Gothmog Mar 2019 #45
In stiff-arming Fox News, Democrats get one big thing right Gothmog Mar 2019 #48
'Democrats have openly discussed their desire to win over Trump voters elleng Mar 2019 #53
Ummmm! Isn't this the same demographic that is currently 95% for Trump VMA131Marine Mar 2019 #55
'exactly the demographic in which Democrats will need to make headway elleng Mar 2019 #59
Nobody is "ignoring it". EarlG makes a much better Cha Mar 2019 #83
This is the same flawed reasoning that considers Trump a normal human being. nt Atticus Mar 2019 #54
The concerns of the Fox News/Fox Business Channel shill have been noted... Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #61
+1 n/t Vogon_Glory Mar 2019 #75
Wrong. Any gain would be negligible kcr Mar 2019 #71
Screw Fox News. pressbox69 Mar 2019 #72
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