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hurl

(1,047 posts)
35. I have to ageee here
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:36 PM
Jun 2019

I understand the bitterness from other Clinton supporters looking for blame in what by all rights should have been a landslide. Bernie was but one factor. There were Russians, a decades-long disinformation campaign against Secretary Clinton, James Comey, the VP pick of Kaine, and other things that formed into a perfect shitstorm. We can argue about which factors made more difference, but I am not in the "mostly Bernie's fault" camp.

I think he did push the platform in the direction we needed, helping to return some older Democratic values back into the mainstream.

I am one of those relative newcomers who can be attributed to Bernie. The takeover of the GOP by religious zealots was alarming, and I was looking for a way to thwart them. Bernie's was the very first campaign to which I donated money, and it sparked my interest in becoming active in my local Democratic Party.

Having said that, I think that nominating Bernie this time would be a terrible mistake. The US electorate is too afraid of the socialist label that Bernie incorrectly embraces, and we would be easily crushed by the GOP propaganda machine IMO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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You sum it up for me exboyfil Jun 2019 #1
You're smart and capable Cha Jun 2019 #2
So ARe You Me. Jun 2019 #3
U2! Cha Jun 2019 #28
I wish so too, Cha. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #12
It's a lot of people's opinions, Turin. Cha Jun 2019 #29
I have no doubts about that, Cha. That's why Saners deserves to be crashing and lunamagica Jun 2019 #39
Wasn't he the first one to sign a Pledge.. Cha Jun 2019 #41
That's when he thought he'd be a shoo-in for the nomination and wanted the rest lunamagica Jun 2019 #42
Yeah, how things changed.. Cha Jun 2019 #43
He's too cranky and he's NOT a democrat. Irishxs Jun 2019 #4
I held the former repub thing against her for a long time, but I ecstatic Jun 2019 #5
It opens the door to a "the party left me" narrative loyalsister Jun 2019 #22
Excellent article. Reflects my view of Sanders quite well. comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #6
People who think Sanders helped Trump win over Clinton are delusional. aidbo Jun 2019 #13
No. ismnotwasm Jun 2019 #24
No, we are not. riversedge Jun 2019 #25
No we are not. lunamagica Jun 2019 #40
There's the front of t-shirt. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #45
I remember all that, that's for damn sure DrToast Jun 2019 #7
Froma Harrop melman Jun 2019 #8
Thanks, I wasn't familiar with that. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #19
There are only two among the current candidates BlueMTexpat Jun 2019 #9
the booing of HRC at the convention was the complete burning of the bridge for me EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #10
Plus Warren is a real Democrat. Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #11
More Democrats happy to go with Bernie over Warren Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #14
Damned pesky facts against the popular false narrative. JudyM Jun 2019 #47
I definitely would go with Warren over Sanders. patphil Jun 2019 #15
Wish she was going zentrum Jun 2019 #16
The article nails what Sanders did to hurt the Democratic party nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #17
Hillary Clinton criticized Obama more harshly in 2008 Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #18
Hillary dropped out when it was mathematically impossible LibFarmer Jun 2019 #27
2020 Slogan sheshe2 Jun 2019 #32
Who do you think "us" is? NT Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #37
Hillary Clinton was criticized for staying in so long in 2008. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #36
And there's the back of the t-shirt LanternWaste Jun 2019 #46
Harrop is a classic example of a Bitter Bernie Blamer, but its good for the clicks. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #20
Nor will hating on Democrats.nt sheshe2 Jun 2019 #33
I have to ageee here hurl Jun 2019 #35
I support any member of the Democratic Party over Saunders. His supporters have convinced me that mulsh Jun 2019 #21
Cool beans! Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #23
Warren is far superior to sanders in my opinion Gothmog Jun 2019 #26
What an absolute fake news piece of garbage LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #30
Link? sheshe2 Jun 2019 #34
+ 1000 mtnsnake Jun 2019 #38
Perfectly written and true Maru Kitteh Jun 2019 #31
Bernie stands alone Prosper Jun 2019 #44
someone's extra grouchy today. Must be Warren passing him in the polls Gothmog Jun 2019 #48
Sanders wants Democrats to think that Warren's gains are a function of moderates. They aren't Gothmog Jun 2019 #49
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