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Gothmog

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5. Sanders wants Democrats to think that Warren's gains are a function of moderates. They aren't
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:49 PM
Jun 2019

I am amused that sanders is so upset but sanders claim that moderate Democrats are the reason for Warren's rise is false. sanders is losing liberal members of the party https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/19/sanders-wants-democrats-think-that-warrens-gains-are-function-moderates-they-arent/?utm_term=.d25c4a40d7a0

Shortly before that poll came out, Sanders’s campaign lifted up a report from Politico that seemed as though it might help explain Warren’s improved position: She was gaining support from what Sanders called “the corporate wing” of the Democratic Party. Which is to say the party’s more moderate, less progressive arm, the segment of the party that, in Sanders’s framing, will pull out all the stops to curtail his economic revolution.....

It doesn’t take much reading between the lines here to understand Sanders’s argument: Centrists are circling around Warren (per Politico) because they are afraid of legitimate progressive positions like his own.

Setting aside the question of how robustly Sanders’s big-ticket policies differ from Warren’s, there’s another, bigger problem with that argument: It’s not what polls show is happening.

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And so it does. In Monmouth’s polls over the past few months, Warren’s surge has been a function of voters who identify as liberals. In April, she earned 8 percent of the vote among those who identify as liberal. In the new poll, she moved into a tie with former vice president Joe Biden.

Biden’s in the overall lead in national primary polling because he fares much better than Warren, Sanders or anyone else among more moderate Democrats. In the most recent poll, Biden gets 40 percent of the moderate vote to Sanders’s 10 percent and Warren’s 6.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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seems like a "trivial thing" qazplm135 Jun 2019 #1
He is lying about polls, attacking the party, and stumbling repeatedly on issues of gender. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #2
Yep, all of that Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #26
He must not think much of his supporters if he's willing to mislead them about polling data. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #30
Ha! Cha Jun 2019 #31
Lying about polls. Does that remind you of anyone? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #33
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #43
+1 MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #57
He's quite Skidmore Jun 2019 #3
Not new for anyone who has paid attention for many years Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start Jun 2019 #4
Sanders wants Democrats to think that Warren's gains are a function of moderates. They aren't Gothmog Jun 2019 #5
That's the one that made me mcar Jun 2019 #47
Stop digging, Bernie mcar Jun 2019 #6
Wow, talk about an inflammatory headline. HerbChestnut Jun 2019 #7
Not really. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #10
Remember HerbChestnut Jun 2019 #13
lol, no TwilightZone Jun 2019 #15
He also mentioned age and the fact she's running a good campaign. HerbChestnut Jun 2019 #19
No, it's your excuses that don't hold up. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #53
Exactly.. Your "narative" is dead on. Cha Jun 2019 #32
Why is it always because of someone's gender or race? LibFarmer Jun 2019 #39
" Hillary Clinton went out of her way to remind everyone that she was a woman running for the lunamagica Jun 2019 #54
He said he ("we") are running against a lot of problems, but he only saw fit to single out two: George II Jun 2019 #12
Thanks, George. HerbChestnut Jun 2019 #14
Better yet, maybe he'll touch on the important factors in the minds of the voters.... George II Jun 2019 #18
Great, maybe you'll watch his campaign video that focuses on rural poverty in the South. HerbChestnut Jun 2019 #20
I did, and one of my first thoughts was why he didn't focus on urban poverty in his home city.... George II Jun 2019 #21
Thanks for the strawman argument, George. HerbChestnut Jun 2019 #22
Would that be the same Democrats that held his seat open for him all these years? MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #56
There won't be a next time LibFarmer Jun 2019 #40
Dismissive. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #8
That's not why I picked Warren, Bernie, but 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #9
Saying that very thing was tone deaf to say the least. ehrnst Jun 2019 #37
I think he was just repeating the obvious. He also said he understood it, and he praised Warren. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #38
Would he EVER say about Cory Booker... ehrnst Jun 2019 #42
Again - stating the obvious. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #44
And that it's "a problem?" ehrnst Jun 2019 #45
Not talking about past dismissive statements. Talking about this one. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #48
This fits into a long, long pattern. ehrnst Jun 2019 #50
IMO it's making a mountain out of a molehill. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #58
It couldn't possibly be that they just don't want him, eh? So how does he explain the fact... George II Jun 2019 #11
Another Sanders-gaff. He seems prone to them. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #16
Those poor, poor men! never getting a break! And now another girl gets to beat up Burnie! robbedvoter Jun 2019 #17
Think you mean 'gurl' crazytown Jun 2019 #24
I Warren had said, "I think that there are certain number of people who would like to see a ehrnst Jun 2019 #46
If Bernie is correct, Progressive dog Jun 2019 #23
Look out Warren! You're about to get Hillaried. R B Garr Jun 2019 #25
I think she can handle it. marylandblue Jun 2019 #34
Good for you. nt R B Garr Jun 2019 #49
I'm fine with Warren or Sanders. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #28
Couldn't possibly her intelligence, good campaigning and solid command of the issues MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #29
Of COURSE not... ehrnst Jun 2019 #36
Same ole, same ole...Couldn't POSSIBLY be that people think she's more qualified... ehrnst Jun 2019 #35
Why doesn't Sanders analyze what is lacking in his campaign? NYMinute Jun 2019 #41
Bernie's biggest problem is that he speaks as if the Democratic party is the enemy. honest.abe Jun 2019 #51
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #59
The $64,000 question: So what about Harris, Gillibrand, Gabbard,Klobuchar, Williamson? Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #52
No Sanders. Your problem is that E Warren is a superior candidate. Deal with it lunamagica Jun 2019 #55
Damn girls, first the VT governor, then Hillary, now Warren - all beating him robbedvoter Jun 2019 #60
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