Democratic Primaries

marylandblue

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63. Yeah really, because Trump is going to beat the crap out of him.

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:02 AM

Jun 2019

If beating Trump is all that matters, you can't be a gaffe machine. If you are, the entire GE will be about what a loser Biden is. Trump gets away with stuff because he has a well-honed media strategy to control the narrative. Biden let this one get away from him, and it's not the first time.

I'm putting this in terms you'll understand. Electability. Being electable means you can control your media image as a down-to-earth, smart, experienced statesman. But Trump will play his tricks and turn Biden into a hapless, angry old fool. Is Biden prepared for this? Are you?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I think these attacks on Biden will backfire... [View all] Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 OP

I feel like some posters here are doing the GOP's work for them. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #1

and Putin's nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #7

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #74

This happens in the primaries on this forum. cwydro Jun 2019 #12

The 2016 primary was just awful. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #15

I know, it really was. cwydro Jun 2019 #16

Yes, removing him is paramount. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #18

DU leans more left DownriverDem Jun 2019 #62

Totally agree. cwydro Jun 2019 #113

+1000 Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #23

oh puhleese shanny Jun 2019 #27

I'm not saying we shouldn't have vigorous debates Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #52

There's a difference between debate and scorched-earth negative campaigning/character assasination emulatorloo Jun 2019 #107

Yep DownriverDem Jun 2019 #50

We know what the repubs will say, so we say it first, as a test. marylandblue Jun 2019 #65

Exactly Butterflylady Jun 2019 #58

I doubt they are monitoring this site at all. marylandblue Jun 2019 #66

Apparently DU was an important enough site woodsprite Jun 2019 #103

It's called vetting Quackers Jun 2019 #77

Lying about Biden and Warren isn't "vetting" emulatorloo Jun 2019 #111

Then debate that fact with those who say otherwise. Quackers Jun 2019 #115

Haven't learn from the Hillary experience have they? treestar Jun 2019 #100

hilarious Skittles Jun 2019 #120

He's mostly being attacked for being politically tone deaf. marylandblue Jun 2019 #2

Seriously? Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #29

It's okay, it doesn't matter what he says or does, he can win and marylandblue Jun 2019 #30

Good...keep it cold. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #73

Yeah, Hillary wrote a book about it. progressoid Jun 2019 #89

This exactly... techne7319 Jun 2019 #31

This. zonkers Jun 2019 #44

I was at a Biden rally. Everyone was on their feet, eager to get our country back on track, emulatorloo Jun 2019 #112

On the other hand, Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #38

Yes, he's authentic. Sometimes. He should just admit he stuck his foot in his mouth as usual marylandblue Jun 2019 #48

True, look at the Orange Toxin treestar Jun 2019 #98

he's obviously tone deaf to the tender feelings of some 'progressives' wyldwolf Jun 2019 #54

David Sirota has an outrage generator in his laptop NYMinute Jun 2019 #55

Yes, we do see that, it's all part of the political game. marylandblue Jun 2019 #60

Really? DownriverDem Jun 2019 #61

Yeah really, because Trump is going to beat the crap out of him. marylandblue Jun 2019 #63

Your frustration amuses me. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #80

Your condescension makes me think much less of you and your opinions. marylandblue Jun 2019 #81

The media will help the Dotard treestar Jun 2019 #99

Who is the " we" that has the power to affect the media? marylandblue Jun 2019 #105

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #71

i Agree 100% disndat Jun 2019 #106

How can one be politically tone deaf treestar Jun 2019 #97

He spent most of his career in a small blue state where he brought home the bacon. marylandblue Jun 2019 #110

Insensitivity did not cause him to fail during the period his son had died. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #117

I guess are you referring to 2016, and I never said he was insensitive marylandblue Jun 2019 #118

I stand corrected. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #119

I like Biden but he is not doing himself a favor by making his recent statements about race. Words walkingman Jun 2019 #3

He hasn't made any bad statements on race. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #32

100% again BootinUp Jun 2019 #35

100% correct. It's not a winning strategy. BootinUp Jun 2019 #4

He is getting a lot of exposure... SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #5

well known and liked shanny Jun 2019 #28

You have a field of 20+ all needing to get their name out underpants Jun 2019 #6

Reminds me of riverine Jun 2019 #8

:) True Blue American Jun 2019 #104

What the detractors don't realize LibFarmer Jun 2019 #9

Honestly, I never thought of that. Well, Booker got his moment. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #19

if they cannot be swayed Skittles Jun 2019 #121

To expose the detractors and dirty-tricksters nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #122

They already backfired on Sanders. MSNBC's Velshi and Ruhle R B Garr Jun 2019 #10

Biden may go up in the polls Bhkylib Jun 2019 #11

Good post. cwydro Jun 2019 #13

Nailed what his appeal is about. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #22

Biden has actually dropped about 10 points on the RCP average since he peaked in early May. Ace Rothstein Jun 2019 #69

Not really Loki Liesmith Jun 2019 #102

Which Democrats are being divisive or refusing to work with Republicans? delisen Jun 2019 #14

I don't think the "able to work with the other side" comment was aimed at the Pubs who refuse napi21 Jun 2019 #21

They already are. His detractors are being lambasted on CNN and MSNBC, even those... George II Jun 2019 #17

I saw that...said not getting traction on msnbc. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #26

They already are. Nuggets Jun 2019 #20

Oh noes! BluesRunTheGame Jun 2019 #24

I do too. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #25

The attacks on Clinton worked in 2016 Dopers_Greed Jun 2019 #33

Those attacks had substance in the sense of the FBI investigation... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #36

His support may be starting to be undermined customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #34

Biden will backfire... techne7319 Jun 2019 #37

Maybe, maybe not customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #45

Joe's off to a rough start, but there's still time to fix the mistakes & get things back on track. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #129

I haven't read any replies, but I already know what I want to say. Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #39

Nah, all you have are throwing ugly insults at Joe Biden Cha Jun 2019 #88

He was ugly. Almost certainly not on purpose. Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #91

All you have are insults. Cha Jun 2019 #92

Well, I remember you . Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #94

Haha.. that's right.. use me as an excuse. Cha Jun 2019 #130

Yes, clueless Boomer Jun 2019 #114

careful, it is clumsy on racially laden subjects treestar Jun 2019 #123

Have to remember...most people here want someone else Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #40

Plenty of people don't think Biden is the best choice to win. Indygram Jun 2019 #43

Similar sentiments...thank you techne7319 Jun 2019 #46

You're welcome Indygram Jun 2019 #49

I am hoping that some Democrats will soon come to realize that the candidate Joe Biden is... Indygram Jun 2019 #41

Exactly techne7319 Jun 2019 #47

kick floppyboo Jun 2019 #93

That is the very essence of failing to have anything to vote FOR. treestar Jun 2019 #101

I could put up with a few gaffes by Joe every now and then...perhaps it's just a case of the jitters InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #128

It Shows He Is Out Of Touch DallasNE Jun 2019 #42

I think it's a bad look for Biden and the people defending him. kcr Jun 2019 #51

I think it is a bad look (seems desperate) for those Democratic candidates attacking Biden Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #75

Each gaffe defense gets more and more desperate. kcr Jun 2019 #90

It seems to me some candidates are desperate and their supporters. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #131

I think they will work, and Trump will be reelected LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #53

Do YOU think it's realistic that we can "unify" with Devin Nunes and McConnell? Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #56

K&R stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #57

but are attacks on policy really valid? KayF Jun 2019 #59

The only thing backfiring on Biden is Biden himself mtnsnake Jun 2019 #64

He IS BigOleDummy Jun 2019 #68

Really...his supporters should demand a better Biden BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #78

The very definition of an unforced error Boomer Jun 2019 #116

It's not really backfiring. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #82

My take on BigOleDummy Jun 2019 #67

K&R Scurrilous Jun 2019 #70

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #72

I've had to temporarily stop watching MSNBC. Miles Archer Jun 2019 #76

and almost started WWIII floppyboo Jun 2019 #95

I see a repeat of 2016 Iliyah Jun 2019 #79

I see a repeat of 1976. Record number of candidates and the best known didn't win. marylandblue Jun 2019 #85

According to Symone Sanders, Biden did not praise a segregationist Gothmog Jun 2019 #83

What I want is a candidate that can rhetorically toe-to-toe with Trump TheRealNorth Jun 2019 #84

It's going to backfire so hard. joshcryer Jun 2019 #86

Like this? MineralMan Jun 2019 #87

They are just proving their candidate can't win treestar Jun 2019 #96

"but attacking Biden for wanting a less divisive congress?" Perseus Jun 2019 #108

Speaking as an African American, they already backfired AFAIC. My support is even stronger... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #109

Joe Biden waxed nostalgic about working with segregationist senators, and candidates and others CentralMass Jun 2019 #124

Yes. Because Bernie Sanders, a white man, who represents the whitest state in the country... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #125

"Waxing nostalgic"? NanceGreggs Jun 2019 #126

I agree... just like the attacks on Bernie, they'll backfire. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #127