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DesertRat

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32. I read it. It was exceptional. nt

Reply to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:35 AM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Ta-Nehisi Coates: "Joe Biden Shouldn't Be President" [View all] Autumn Jun 2019 OP

Who is Ta-Nehisi Coates and what makes him an authority on who should be president? George II Jun 2019 #1

Don't worry BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #4

Imaginative allegation. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #14

You read "Between the World and Me"? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #28

I read it. It was exceptional. nt DesertRat Jun 2019 #32

And you know this for sure! Butterflylady Jun 2019 #137

Biden's supporters are older black voters. Honestly, candidates simply can not gain the support of emmaverybo Jun 2019 #153

Actually, Biden's support pretty much correlates with age Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #215

Biden still leads in perception of electability. So many Americans must not be clued in to the emmaverybo Jul 2019 #228

Let me reword that. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #189

That too BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #193

You think younger black voters are too gullible to avoid being swayed by Coates but white voters StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #199

From I've heard, he was most helpful in the anti-Hillary campaign in 2016. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #5

Yep...another "rip the Democratic party apart" folks. Mars and Minerva Jun 2019 #35

NO... you don''t understand lapfog_1 Jun 2019 #83

Welcome to primary season. backscatter712 Jun 2019 #87

WORD!!!! True Dough Jun 2019 #126

That is a complete fantasy. Mars and Minerva Jun 2019 #142

I'm shocked you don't know who he is. Autumn Jun 2019 #12

As I asked, what make him an authority on who should (actually should not) be President? George II Jun 2019 #15

He's a Black American author and journalist with an opinion? Your opinion is that Biden should Autumn Jun 2019 #39

Last I saw no one posted an OP about me saying anyone should NOT be president.... George II Jun 2019 #50

Well you're not an author and journalist so I imagine what you think is only interesting to Autumn Jun 2019 #58

But you find him enough of an "authority" to post a Biden-bashing OP based on his opinion. Okay. George II Jun 2019 #77

So the problem here is that I posted his interview? Yet you recommend and comment in a positive Autumn Jun 2019 #120

And the insults keep flowing, thanks! George II Jun 2019 #121

I haven't insulted you yet. Autumn Jun 2019 #131

Not George, but I'd have to disagree. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #133

Did you read his post I responded to? There's reason Ta-Nehisi Coates gets posted here often. Autumn Jun 2019 #135

I second your emotion. Personal insult it was. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #151

Goerge II, without me being impertinent I will try to explain someone's answer to you Perseus Jun 2019 #127

George isn't the one being insulting. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #129

. George II Jun 2019 #134

That's not an insult, it's a fact. George is not a public figure which is why there are no OPs Autumn Jun 2019 #136

Because Biden leads with black voters, critics are bound to examine his relationship now emmaverybo Jun 2019 #158

Dayum fine post, emmavertybo. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #177

Coming from you sheshe2, whose comments I so frequently admire, good to hear. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #178

You said it far better than I ever could. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #180

After the debate, Kamala's support from black voters went up - Biden's down womanofthehills Jul 2019 #237

Right now his support is still stronger than hers. But then his civil rights record is as well. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #239

The old adage about opinions comes to mind. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #186

It come to my mind very often there are so many opinions here. Autumn Jun 2019 #187

Keen observation. Demit Jun 2019 #41

Ta-Nehisi Coates's one of, if not the most, important voices in the US for the current reparations Celerity Jun 2019 #93

Now there's a big loser for the General election. Keep it up. Four more for Trump redstateblues Jun 2019 #107

I made no statement of support or non-support for reparations. Celerity Jun 2019 #112

Here's what I hate about political blogs like DU (and DK where I write regularly)...sometimes Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #232

Yep. LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #235

Talk of reparations has to wait until Dems are in the WH. oasis Jul 2019 #238

The same that makes you an authority of you or any other American tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #156

I haven't proclaimed that any of our candidates "should not be president". George II Jun 2019 #167

. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #25

I knew someone would come through as soon as I read the OP. SMC22307 Jun 2019 #128

LOL Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #17

See... Chicago1980 Jun 2019 #97

The Golden Child is a great Eddie Murphy movie. aidbo Jun 2019 #165

WTH? You don't know TNC? aikoaiko Jun 2019 #18

Oh, he's only zentrum Jun 2019 #19

Is that "self-appointed"? What makes him one of THE most important? George II Jun 2019 #24

This is getting beyond the pale. zentrum Jun 2019 #40

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #45

Exactly.Really zentrum Jun 2019 #53

It probably will. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #57

What's worse than ignorance is not asking questions. Why dump on someone... LAS14 Jun 2019 #115

I guess that includes me then! True Blue American Jun 2019 #65

But you knew who he was before today, right? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #68

No, I never heard of him True Blue American Jun 2019 #69

Just one. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #74

Vaguely True Blue American Jun 2019 #84

Both Coates and Frum wrote for The Atlantic. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #88

I didn't know who he was until today. Chemisse Jun 2019 #95

It's more than absurd. You can look at past OPs about Ta-Nehisi Coates and people who are Autumn Jun 2019 #138

Bazinga! Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #141

Interesting pic you posted. nt sheshe2 Jun 2019 #179

Tell me what you know about James Baldwin, Autumn, Langston Hughes, Lorraine Hansberry, August emmaverybo Jun 2019 #182

If I post about James Baldwin, Langston Hughes, Lorraine Hansberry, or anyone else. If I Autumn Jun 2019 #183

What you can't defend is your conduct, Autumn. You insult, demean, belittle. It is unwarranted. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #184

I have nothing to defend emmaverybo, I did none of that. Have a nice day nt Autumn Jun 2019 #185

you should maybe sit out the next few rounds Champ qazplm135 Jun 2019 #82

I really hope your ignorance on this matter is not indicative of DU's knowledge of issues tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #157

I'm black. I don't agree with that assessment. Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #61

I don't agree because he doesn't cover any other issues treestar Jun 2019 #147

I think the name was connected with that useless True Blue American Jun 2019 #21

Exactly. He screwed us in 2016 and will do it again. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #62

I did too ,but True Blue American Jun 2019 #64

How... Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #208

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you obvoiusly did not watch his speech at the hearing for slave restoration Perseus Jun 2019 #94

Well, there is this. zentrum Jul 2019 #188

Coates should keep his opinion to himself onetexan Jul 2019 #196

If you don't know who he is smooth64 Jul 2019 #198

He is probably the most influential Black intellectual in America today samir.g Jul 2019 #204

Reminded of another "renowned" academician, Cornell West (who never had a positive thing to say... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #213

West sharply criticized Coates Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #216

you just proved my point. West never had a positive thing to say about Obama. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #221

you are so wrong Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #217

No, YOU ARE WRONG and apparently had difficulty reading that I was writing about West's disdain hlthe2b Jul 2019 #220

But you are grouping Coates with West Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #222

I said one reminded me of the other. Both well known and opinionated AA academicians. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #223

Coates isn't an academic, though Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #225

TNC is #4 on this list of 25 Black Scholars / Cornell West is #24 hlthe2b Jul 2019 #226

Again...Coates is not an academic Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #229

asked and answered fully: Scholar is a synonym for academic, as is "intellectual" which you used hlthe2b Jul 2019 #230

An academic is something very specific Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #233

again you are foolishly arguing against your own points. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #234

Sigh ... StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #236

Ruh ro! Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #2

Fair. I know it sounds harsh but it is what it is. BeckyDem Jun 2019 #3

Ta Nehisi Coates was born in 1975 NYMinute Jun 2019 #6

Teh evil Sirota mastermind! Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #11

100+ True Blue American Jun 2019 #23

A black man born in Baltimore has "less of an idea" what it was like for AAs?? Demit Jun 2019 #63

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #70

The black experience did not end with slavery. When did Jim Crow end? Demit Jun 2019 #78

Believe it. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #110

this is wrong on so many levels shanny Jun 2019 #79

WTF did you just type? qazplm135 Jun 2019 #86

What an astoundingly ignorant comment. Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #210

And what so many white USers don't get loyalsister Jun 2019 #98

No one denied the reality of racism NYMinute Jun 2019 #101

He sees Biden through his experience loyalsister Jun 2019 #106

He should go back to writing comics Loki Liesmith Jun 2019 #7

Oh, so now we have a comic author telling us who should NOT be President. George II Jun 2019 #16

Do you not know how to use Google? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #20

I see who he is, a 45-year old with an attitude, and he's telling every who should NOT be president? George II Jun 2019 #22

But if he were an anonymous septuagenarian with an attitude telling everyone who SHOULD be president Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #26

Who said that? What "anonymous septuagenarian" has been telling us who should be president? But... George II Jun 2019 #36

I find your posthoc rationalization amusing. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #42

Whatever. George II Jun 2019 #44

I mean, you understand how mutually exclusive propositions work, right? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #49

"than it is finding reasons why any of them should not." Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #59

Civil rights icon John Lewis backs Biden, says segregationist comments were not offensive Gothmog Jun 2019 #123

See. John Lewis has an opinion too. Autumn Jun 2019 #132

I can respect and admire John Lewis and regard him as a hero Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #231

so this person is a cartoonist? .....,.well now im REALLY gonna pay attn! ;/ samnsara Jun 2019 #38

He's a writer. An award-winning author. A MacArthur genius award recipient. Demit Jun 2019 #54

"You'll find out who he is and what he's done" makes for better writing and avoids a juvenile emmaverybo Jun 2019 #155

You seriously don't like his Black Panther? Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #29

Same. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #37

He had some fiction last week (?) in the New Yorker tishaLA Jun 2019 #48

That was a beautiful story. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #144

Not our most enlightened days for racial dialogue on DU. BlueWI Jun 2019 #146

I mean...really Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #224

Next! Scurrilous Jun 2019 #8

African American South Carolinians weigh in on Biden's comments stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #9

Well, that's the opinion of Ta-Nehisi Coates, and I don't plan to consult him for voting advice. Miles Archer Jun 2019 #10

She asks for his thoughts ucrdem Jun 2019 #13

He tried to sway the 2016 primary by announcing he would be voting for Sanders. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #27

Trump can thank Susan Sarandon and Coates for their help in 2016. oasis Jun 2019 #60

Because that one more vote in California would have made all the difference LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #113

"ONE VOTE IN CALIFORNIA"? As if influence over MSM airwaves oasis Jun 2019 #143

One vote LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #150

Ya know, I just knew this in my gut after reading what he wrote. lark Jun 2019 #105

I wonder who that is. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #30

who...AND WHY... the fuck is his quote important enuff to be posted here? samnsara Jun 2019 #31

Oh has this been posted? He is popular and gets posted here often, has been for years. Autumn Jun 2019 #52

Thank you. shanny Jun 2019 #80

Between this OP and Third Way admitting they were wrong... SMC22307 Jun 2019 #130

A few days ago I posted in one of these "Biden is bad" threads a picture of Biden wearing (gasp!)... George II Jun 2019 #124

It is very telling how many Biden threads there are treestar Jun 2019 #148

There are plenty of negative threads Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #160

I haven't seen them treestar Jun 2019 #171

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #172

LInk to some treestar Jun 2019 #173

I've also noticed that obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #240

TNC knows what is what. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #34

not sure what tnc is either samnsara Jun 2019 #43

You have already shown you don't have a clue... tonedevil Jun 2019 #66

I cannot believe DUers are trashing TNC aikoaiko Jun 2019 #46

His is anti Hillary stance helped elect Trump redstateblues Jun 2019 #109

I don't recall him being anti-HRC. He had criticisms for both Bernie and HRC aikoaiko Jun 2019 #125

Why are you surprised? MicaelS Jul 2019 #227

Mr Coates got roasted by lots of the Sanders folks here in 16 tishaLA Jun 2019 #47

it seems different KayF Jun 2019 #51

Because we're on a trajectory. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #55

He's actually smart and beautifully expressive. But I disagree with him. nolabear Jun 2019 #56

No snark: I'm so relieved to see your post tishaLA Jun 2019 #92

I know. We have gone way too far in the direction of sniping for an audience. nolabear Jun 2019 #99

Thank you for that. I don't always agree with him on something but his writing and his Autumn Jun 2019 #119

He wasn't "celebrating" his relationship with the guy. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2019 #67

Merriam-Webster: Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #72

Maybe if Biden hadn't garbled the story he's told before, people wouldn't be so confused. Demit Jun 2019 #75

Spin: That is not what TNC said. crazytown Jun 2019 #76

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #71

I wish they'd just let him back into the Senate somehow. Demit Jun 2019 #90

Thanks for this. I watch Democracy Now almost every morning and saw this interview. The whole Nanjeanne Jun 2019 #73

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #81

+1 Celerity Jun 2019 #96

Does that apply if the alternative is fn Trump? Thomas Hurt Jun 2019 #85

Democracy Now who did their best to dissuade people from voting for Hillary. still_one Jun 2019 #89

Spin spin spin. Nt BootinUp Jun 2019 #91

We could collect the responses in this thread... tonedevil Jun 2019 #100

As a WOC I'm appalled at what I'm seeing here. What's worse is some of them asking who or Autumn Jun 2019 #139

It is frequently appalling... tonedevil Jun 2019 #140

What did he do to help HRC get elected? lark Jun 2019 #102

He voted for her samir.g Jul 2019 #205

This message was self-deleted by its author Snackshack Jun 2019 #103

I respect his opinion but strongly disagree. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #104

I recommend his book, "We Were Eight Years in Power" Retrograde Jun 2019 #108

A great book emulatorloo Jun 2019 #118

So far I've been able to find this story on two sites only. Scurrilous Jun 2019 #111

I'll take the word of John Lewis over Coates any day: George II Jun 2019 #114

Yes. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #116

+1 I find it difficult to see those who fought for civil rights relegated to dustbin of history hlthe2b Jun 2019 #161

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #122

I'll take them both. John Lewis doesn't have to be offended for TNC to be correct. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #149

Coates is great. I know democracynow wants to destroy Biden, but it's not going to happen. emulatorloo Jun 2019 #117

Under the bus now! BlueWI Jun 2019 #145

...love him or hate him... myohmy2 Jun 2019 #152

The world does not revolve around Polly Hennessey Jun 2019 #154

Here we go again.... OnDoutside Jun 2019 #159

If people giving their opinion on a candidate, one of many, running for president will cause the Autumn Jun 2019 #162

Were you too young to remember the damage done in 2016 by the OnDoutside Jun 2019 #163

The damage I saw was from the electoral college, Russian meddling and 3 states, called the Autumn Jun 2019 #164

You're forgetting depressed African American turnout in key states OnDoutside Jun 2019 #166

You're forgetting voter suppression of millions of votes across the country pnwmom Jun 2019 #168

That's all equally true, but that isn't the discussion at hand. OnDoutside Jun 2019 #169

I think it is. The problem in 2016 wasn't Coates. It was massive voter suppression, pnwmom Jun 2019 #170

that will all still happen, so we need huuuuge turnout treestar Jun 2019 #174

We need to help people get registered AND get proper voter ID's. nt pnwmom Jun 2019 #175

No, I wasn't referring to Coates in 2016, but people like Cornell West, OnDoutside Jun 2019 #181

So, add another shooter to the Democratic Party circular firing squad. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2019 #176

He is not objective. He wants want he wants and that is all. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #190

Neither are you objective. Few are. You want what you want, and what you want is no more Autumn Jul 2019 #191

You are wrong about my objectivity but you are right with few are. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #192

LOL... /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #195

No. I'm not wrong, you display it time and time again. nt Autumn Jul 2019 #200

Ta-Nehisi Coates DID NOT SUPPORT OBAMA. Midwestocrat Jul 2019 #194

Plenty of people care. Plenty of people don't care. nt Autumn Jul 2019 #201

Who? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #197

I'm not concerned. Obviously you are but I see no need to thank you for your concern Autumn Jul 2019 #202

Did someone thank you for anything? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #203

You did. If your post were about him it would have been "his concern is noted." Autumn Jul 2019 #207

You're Ta-Nehisi Coates???? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #209

Did you post to him? You posted to me, I posted the OP Autumn Jul 2019 #211

I posted about him. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #214

ITT: whitesplaining about how TNC's opinion is invalid and no one knows who he is anyway samir.g Jul 2019 #206

You might not know who he is but a lot of people do know who he is. Autumn Jul 2019 #212

+10000 Celerity Jul 2019 #218

Of course I know who he is. samir.g Jul 2019 #219