Democratic Primaries

Celerity

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36. Bernie has the lowest ceiling of any of the top 10 candidates

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 05:01 PM

Jun 2019

I have watched multiple interviews with actual voters on MSNBC in the last two days

Latinxs in Miami

African-Americans in South Carolina

mostly whites in Pennsylvania and Iowa

all sorts of different age cohorts

The one unifying theme was that the vast majority said (especially the Miami and South Carolina crowds) was that the one person they would not (some even said they might vote Trump if he wins our nomination) vote for in the general was Bernie.

It is electoral suicide to nominate him, and also he can (and may well) do great damage if he has no path to the nomination, yet refuses to drop out (as he has a large, fanatical base who will keep pouring in good money after bad to sustain his campaign) and pulls a repeat of 2016 and goes full stop scorched earth against the remaining 3, 4 (or even 1 or 2) remaining front-runners.

I occasionally (not much as it is sickening) go read the non DU Berner sites, YT channels, and Twitter feeds, and they are viciously opposed to Warren. It is disgusting to see most of the invective used against her and all the other of our candidates (except for Tulsi Gabbard, who they are convinced will be the next VP for POTUS Bernie).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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More than one-third of Democratic voters want Bernie Sanders to drop out of the 2020 presidential... [View all] George II Jun 2019 OP

100% of me wants over half the field to drop out. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #1

Beto? True Blue American Jun 2019 #21

I wouldnt mind if Biden picks him as VP candidate onetexan Jun 2019 #49

He can't beat Cornyn TexasBushwhacker Jun 2019 #124

Same here. Duppers Jun 2019 #22

Beto would make True Blue American Jun 2019 #25

Indeed. nt Duppers Jun 2019 #28

Beto needs to be on the Presidential ticket. Amimnoch Jun 2019 #48

Me, too. They're in it for their own gain, w/no chance of being the nominee. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #32

I will agree with you - after the first set of debates. Chemisse Jun 2019 #35

Well, there's this: luvtheGWN Jun 2019 #51

**WRONG** Misleading reading of poll. Here's why ... masmdu Jun 2019 #62

How am I wrong? I'm offering MY opinion. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #98

A third of Democrats want Bernie Sanders to drop out of the race Cha Jun 2019 #107

This. Codeine Jun 2019 #127

Whoa Me. Jun 2019 #2

**WRONG** Misleading reading of poll. Here's why ... masmdu Jun 2019 #63

But It Says 35% Of Dems Me. Jun 2019 #104

A third of Democrats want Bernie Sanders to drop out of the race Cha Jun 2019 #108

That's What It Says Me. Jun 2019 #110

This is encouraging.. maybe Cha Jun 2019 #111

Follow the link. The article says "voters" Not "Democrats" masmdu Jun 2019 #120

Amazing that a Warren supporter LibFarmer Jun 2019 #112

I'd like a lot of candidates to drop out. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #3

That's why I provided a link to the actual poll. There are others, but BS is at 34.63%.... George II Jun 2019 #5

I'd like Gillibrand and Gabbard to drop out the most. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #6

CHANGE your OP. Headline is FALSE masmdu Jun 2019 #58

Not surprising. That would help a few other candidates. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #4

**WRONG** Misleading reading of poll. Here's why ... masmdu Jun 2019 #64

What whoa. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #7

From my twitter feed Gothmog Jun 2019 #8

**WRONG** Misleading reading of poll. Here's why ... masmdu Jun 2019 #65

I didn't realise that there were so many Corporatist in the party. bahrbearian Jun 2019 #9

I don't know what constitutes being a "corporatist", but suit yourself. George II Jun 2019 #12

I think a corporatist is murielm99 Jun 2019 #29

+1 n/t okieinpain Jun 2019 #34

I think corporatist means... reACTIONary Jun 2019 #42

All those words: establishment, status quo, neoliberal, elite, corporatist, mean the same thing. betsuni Jun 2019 #71

It's just a smear... reACTIONary Jun 2019 #44

CHANGE your OP. Headline is FALSE! masmdu Jun 2019 #59

Not sure what Corporatists have to do with it. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #17

Yeah, right. Like corporatists who prefer Elizabeth Warren. pnwmom Jun 2019 #45

That figure includes Independents. namahage Jun 2019 #78

Learn to pluralize. nt Codeine Jun 2019 #128

More and more are going to realize this as time goes by LibFarmer Jun 2019 #10

What happened to True Blue American Jun 2019 #23

**WRONG** Misleading reading of poll. Here's why ... masmdu Jun 2019 #67

You're wrong -- see post #80. nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #81

lol.. someone finally Cha Jun 2019 #92

Don't Forget Nina Me. Jun 2019 #101

K&R nt NYMinute Jun 2019 #11

That's a tough poll mcar Jun 2019 #13

**WRONG** Misleading reading of poll. Here's why ... masmdu Jun 2019 #68

Yes, Sanders. Prove it's about the issues and not about your ego, and drop out lunamagica Jun 2019 #14

Warren is similar or better on BS' issues, and articulates her position better. George II Jun 2019 #15

I find her a much superior candidate in every way. lunamagica Jun 2019 #16

Bingo. Warren is just as progressive as Sanders issues wise, without being Still In Wisconsin Jun 2019 #43

She doesn't beat trump better! And I like her, too. This is our daily smear-Bernie post. Doitnow Jun 2019 #47

CHANGE your OP. Headline is FALSE! masmdu Jun 2019 #60

You can say that about all the candidates. progressoid Jun 2019 #37

**WRONG** Misleading reading of poll. Here's why ... masmdu Jun 2019 #70

If Sanders dropped out and threw his support behind Warren, it would drmatially change the primary still_one Jun 2019 #18

a little over 23 % also think Warren should drop out. riversedge Jun 2019 #31

If Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders would drop out, that would really energize the NCjack Jun 2019 #19

Why would the candidate who is leading by 2-1 or more in most polls drop out? George II Jun 2019 #24

CHANGE your OP. Headline it is FALSE! masmdu Jun 2019 #57

Wow melman Jun 2019 #90

To open a big lane for Warren, as an act of love for Warren and in recognition NCjack Jun 2019 #121

Bernie has the lowest ceiling of any of the top 10 candidates Celerity Jun 2019 #36

I know people are worried about 2020, I am too... BlueJac Jun 2019 #20

that's funny, they never asked me and I'm an American, the last time I checked. nt yaesu Jun 2019 #26

How in the hell.... BigOleDummy Jun 2019 #27

Too bad RandiFan1290 Jun 2019 #30

K&R Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #33

I want him to drop out also. Doreen Jun 2019 #38

Inslee's term is up in 2020. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #96

I didn't realize his term was up. Doreen Jun 2019 #99

So 2/3 don't Cheap_Trick Jun 2019 #39

Yes, that leaves 67% that say stay in, when most of the candidates struggle to get 3% support. StTimofEdenRoc Jun 2019 #53

And 80% don't want Biden namahage Jun 2019 #131

And not this DEMOCRATIC voter Cheap_Trick Jun 2019 #40

Interesting.. I wonder why? Cha Jun 2019 #41

THey Want A Win? Me. Jun 2019 #100

Oh that's right... we're Cha Jun 2019 #102

Yes We Do Me. Jun 2019 #105

Personally I don't give one shit what Bernie Sanders does. He was relevant in 2016... Still In Wisconsin Jun 2019 #46

did they ask how many want Biden to drop out? shanny Jun 2019 #50

Why, yes they did. namahage Jun 2019 #61

OK thanks shanny Jun 2019 #74

Possibly because in this poll question, namahage Jun 2019 #87

I'm not pushing for that to happen customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #52

**WRONG** Misleading reading of poll. Here's why ... masmdu Jun 2019 #54

Read the question closer. namahage Jun 2019 #66

Where does it say that? masmdu Jun 2019 #75

Read the methodology. The link is in the OP. LibFarmer Jun 2019 #84

Above the dropout questions, it says "for 3.1 and 3.3" which refers to question 3... honest.abe Jun 2019 #122

They are unskewing the polls LibFarmer Jun 2019 #83

You forget the statistical probability LibFarmer Jun 2019 #80

As for saying Trump and Bernie have so much in common. NO THEY DON"T..... Doitnow Jun 2019 #55

LIE! The headline doesn't say "Democrats" but your OP does... masmdu Jun 2019 #56

This isn't LBN. OP titles don't have to match headlines. namahage Jun 2019 #69

AND Republicans! masmdu Jun 2019 #72

If they polled them for that question, sure. namahage Jun 2019 #73

Perhaps but not clearly stated. The OP however, is Wrong. masmdu Jun 2019 #77

Can't you just admit you were mistaken? Question #3 was answered only by Dems & Independents. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #82

Thank YOu! Cha Jun 2019 #93

Hi Cha! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #95

Lie? The headline said that when it was first posted and when I posted it, as does the link. George II Jun 2019 #85

Lie? I copied/pasted the headline when posted. That's what it said then, as still does the link. George II Jun 2019 #86

This makes sense. R B Garr Jun 2019 #76

Bernie Bots pamdb Jun 2019 #79

100% FAKE headline by you which is not what the article said. You should have edited it mtnsnake Jun 2019 #88

How about instead of relying on headlines, namahage Jun 2019 #89

Sounds to me like you're completely okay with someone falsifying an article's headline mtnsnake Jun 2019 #115

No surprise really... but, if a lie negatively impacts Bernie, guess just go with it. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #114

Let's pretend your headline is accurate...still leaves 2/3'rds that don't want him to drop out AncientGeezer Jun 2019 #91

+ 1000 mtnsnake Jun 2019 #116

Bernie has by far the highest dropout numbers among the major candidates. honest.abe Jun 2019 #123

Quoting Bernie, roody Jun 2019 #94

Every poll that comes out shows that voters are deciding. LibFarmer Jun 2019 #109

He seemed unhappy last time they decided. nt Codeine Jun 2019 #129

Add me to the list. He won't do it; but I wish he would. n/t. NNadir Jun 2019 #97

We Need a Democrat to Represent the Democratic Party dlk Jun 2019 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Jun 2019 #106

K&R betsuni Jun 2019 #113

Biden and Sanders should both drop out. BlueStater Jun 2019 #117

As long as Biden is leading in the polls Cha Jun 2019 #118

So, we have a candidate that is beating Trump in numerous polls, and you want him to drop out? LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #125

Does he have ANY selling points other than being better than Trump? BlueStater Jun 2019 #133

If his time has actually passed Codeine Jun 2019 #130

I don't give a damn what some stupid polls based on name recognition say. BlueStater Jun 2019 #132

So they all should get behind a candidate they like. Buzz cook Jun 2019 #119

Quite a few people want everyone to drop out. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #126