Democratic Primaries

mr_lebowski

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60. There actually is a significant difference in the two phrases in question ...

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 09:23 PM

Jun 2019

"I didn't ask for your vote" (apparently not what was said, ergo, not even sure why we're discussing it, but since that's what the OP says) comes off as smarmy and disrespectful.

If you're just reading the words, you can imagine a reader putting the emphasis on different words in their head ... "I DIDN'T ASK for your vote". Sounds bad. "I didn't ask for YOUR vote" sounds even worse.

"I'm not asking for your vote" sounds (and reads) as something said in a much more respectful tone. People understand 'asking for your vote' in the present tense as having a specific 'meaning'. When used in the past tense, that meaning is lost.

I understand the OP is reporting what was heard from a commentator, but maybe one should go to the source before trusting a commentator. Just sayin' ... made the same mistake myself many times ...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Mayor Pete may not be ready for prime time. [View all] brush Jun 2019 OP

i don't know about that anecdote but he's a force in the future. Kurt V. Jun 2019 #1

Yeah I'm starting to wonder about that myself. marylandblue Jun 2019 #2

Probably exhausted and frustrated--not that that is an excuse. But even young guys experience this! hlthe2b Jun 2019 #5

Why doesn't the original poster produce the entire transcript? Perseus Jun 2019 #61

Exactly. She implied he was campaiging, he made it clear he wasn't. Merlot Jun 2019 #94

I also really like Buttigieg. trev Jun 2019 #63

The head of the NAACP made a statement that said he handled things "phenomenally." Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #72

Well I hope you are right. marylandblue Jun 2019 #85

IMO trev Jun 2019 #90

I don't think the AA demographic is going to go for him, no matter what. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #93

Exactly. Agree 100% nt helpisontheway Jun 2019 #109

Older AA were never going to vote for him because he is gay. Nt helpisontheway Jun 2019 #107

he is too young anyways. he needs more experience JI7 Jun 2019 #3

I disagree with that opinion. trev Jun 2019 #95

i think if he had been a member of congress or held some higher position it might be different JI7 Jun 2019 #115

I agree. trev Jun 2019 #118

It may be a plus that he doesn't come from Congress. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #119

video melman Jun 2019 #4

For what it is worth, and having read more about the incident pangaia Jun 2019 #26

Yep. BootinUp Jun 2019 #55

We don't know how long they interacted and what all was said. LuvNewcastle Jun 2019 #6

That is not quite what he said. femmedem Jun 2019 #7

+1 Celerity Jun 2019 #9

And that very subtle nuance is going to be understood once that video circulates? brush Jun 2019 #18

Right. We've seen how the much older and more seasoned Joe Biden surely doesn't make any blunders? True Dough Jun 2019 #24

LOL pangaia Jun 2019 #28

ONe maybe too old and one maybe too yuung. brush Jun 2019 #36

If this is a blunder? I would have to say it is his first Perseus Jun 2019 #64

Just wanted to point out it that this would not be his first blunder tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #79

the all lives matter stuff was back in March 2015, and he used it once Celerity Jun 2019 #92

LOL @ the Whataboutism tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #101

not everything is whataboutism Celerity Jun 2019 #105

Nothing to do age, he just didn't handle it well. marylandblue Jun 2019 #38

it may well be a big nail in his coffin, I am not going to deny it, but any politician, especially Celerity Jun 2019 #40

I think he's stuck between a rock and a hard place with this unexpected situation Indygram Jun 2019 #102

the clip only shows the truly heated part, and yes, it did end much better than one would Celerity Jun 2019 #111

There actually is a significant difference in the two phrases in question ... mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #60

Won't sound any different to AA ears when the video circulates brush Jun 2019 #69

Respectfully disagree, I think the answer "I'm not asking for your vote" mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #84

I took it in the manner it was intended - it was arrogant and offensive Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #96

Take it however you like ... mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #98

LOL, nice try! nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #80

ok, that's a lot different than what the OP wrote JI7 Jun 2019 #10

This absolutely what he meant. He is a thoughtful and Glimmer of Hope Jun 2019 #23

I'm sick of the nitpicking bullshit. Every little f$@#ing word or comment. oldsoftie Jun 2019 #25

It is so tiring.we really do eat our own with OVERsensitivity. Argh. Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #29

True that! FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #48

oldsoftie? Someone is using your handle. rzemanfl Jun 2019 #62

Probably true. trev Jun 2019 #65

Thanks for this clarification. Context is important. But it didn't R B Garr Jun 2019 #86

I don't know... she was bringing up the election, so saying he wasn't asking for her vote sounded JudyM Jun 2019 #103

I saw the video & thought his comment was brusque and surprising. appalachiablue Jun 2019 #8

In all fairness, when I read about this exchange, my understanding was that he meant he was not emmaverybo Jun 2019 #11

She had no sign. She was screaming at him at the protest because of the police killing the jezebel321 Jun 2019 #12

After watching Joe read his speech and the subsequent talk with Rev. Al today... JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #13

+1 Celerity Jun 2019 #17

Read this article from the Guardian, I hope everyone does Perseus Jun 2019 #66

Thanks! JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #97

I know someone who is Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #91

perhaps get the facts of the incident before posting incorrect info? nt jezebel321 Jun 2019 #14

What was incorrect? brush Jun 2019 #20

This story may not get that much traction with so much going on in the news FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #15

He was in SC today and spoke. He wasn't there last night for the fish fry/ brush Jun 2019 #19

I'm aware he was in SC today. I referred to him being in his town and saying this. FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #16

I wish the same argument used on O'Rourke would be used on Buttigieg. RLG Jun 2019 #22

he is from Indiana so little chance if winning anything statewide there JI7 Jun 2019 #27

So, he shouldn't try again? RLG Jun 2019 #49

maybe a congressional seat but not statewide in Indiana JI7 Jun 2019 #51

Which narrowly went to Obama in 2008. RLG Jun 2019 #116

that was because of the economic disaster we were in at the time JI7 Jun 2019 #117

and his congressional district has been gerrymandered into a safe Rethug one (quelle surprise) Celerity Jun 2019 #53

maybe his husband comes from an area he would do better in JI7 Jun 2019 #56

Chasten is from Traverse City, Michigan, in another ruby red congressional (gerrymandered ffs) Celerity Jun 2019 #75

This is a bullshit. mobeau69 Jun 2019 #30

I agree and tensions are high. We had this in STLMO (Ferguson MO) and believe me, the tensions... SWBTATTReg Jun 2019 #44

Thank you. you're right. MBS Jun 2019 #68

That's entirely possible radical noodle Jun 2019 #112

so you cherry pick one sentence out of an entire exchange and use it selectively. nt msongs Jun 2019 #31

Bam! democrank Jun 2019 #57

Not a good sentence when you need AA support badly. brush Jun 2019 #76

Well, how does his experience compare to Trumps for qualifying him for the presidency? captain queeg Jun 2019 #32

We do have other mid-career, experienced candidates though. brush Jun 2019 #41

Any officer that turns off their camera should be fired automatically. No excuses or second chances. LonePirate Jun 2019 #33

He didn't turn it off, the issue is he didn't turn it on. mobeau69 Jun 2019 #45

Seems the issue is it should've been on. brush Jun 2019 #50

That's the whole point of the investigation and the consideration of policy changes! mobeau69 Jun 2019 #58

I believe the rules in place were that he was supposed to turn it on. marylandblue Jun 2019 #88

If he didn't turn it on or if he turned it off, the outcome should be the same - fired from his job. LonePirate Jun 2019 #73

She asked whether he was there in concern for them, or whether it was just part of his tblue37 Jun 2019 #34

I repeated what the cable commentator relayed but it was still... brush Jun 2019 #39

OMG! Haters are turning to Mayor Pete now? left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #35

If Trump can get elected, anyone can get elected. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2019 #37

So true. brush Jun 2019 #42

this times a billion Celerity Jun 2019 #43

Trump had Russian Help and the Bigot support JI7 Jun 2019 #54

Posts like this make me want to bash my head against the wall until my eyes fall out ... mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #46

+1000 emmaverybo Jun 2019 #104

Now that Pete has momentum it's time to parse every word. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #47

Next it will be Biden read from a script instead of off the cuff FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #52

That is some way of turning a simple answer to something bigger Perseus Jun 2019 #59

It must be difficult to be a candidate trev Jun 2019 #67

Biden is a pro politician, Buttigieg is not Perseus Jun 2019 #74

Hm. I'm not sure that either answer actually answered anything. trev Jun 2019 #89

He seems to have handled the past situation with the Black police cheif poorly also. Blue_true Jun 2019 #70

He didn't turn it off. The issue is he didn't turn it on. mobeau69 Jun 2019 #77

The cameras should be turned on by a device at the station house, Blue_true Jun 2019 #81

The problem is customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #100

I think this situation may have torpedoed his chances of not only the winning the nomination, Blue_true Jun 2019 #106

I fear that you are correct customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #108

The cameras automatically turn on radical noodle Jun 2019 #113

I'd have to see it...to hear what she said first, that he was responding to. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #71

Provide the entire exchange or video or this means nothing to me Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #78

Just no. Totally different perspective than that from an article posted in another thread. You emmaverybo Jun 2019 #82

He could have said something to the effect of... Cirque du So-What Jun 2019 #83

Yeah exactly Kentonio Jun 2019 #120

Hmmm Mike Nelson Jun 2019 #87

He's screwed no matter what he does customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #99

Yikes. zentrum Jun 2019 #110

He's ready for prime time...... Chemisse Jun 2019 #114