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In reply to the discussion: I love Kamala, but I'M IN FOR GOVERNOR JAY INSLEE [View all]ancianita
(43,308 posts)140. Thanks for your posts. I'm old, too, not a scientist, and with only familiarity on climate issues,
so I do appreciate your knowledge of it. We learn a lot around here from folks like you.
I'm pretty sure that Governor Inslee is "a deeper thinker than his political rhetoric allows," yes.
I also think he can still challenge energy realists and climate nihilists which influence the average American.
I'd like him to publicly echo what Wallace-Wells says:
The project of unplugging the entire industrial world from fossil fuels is intimidating and must be done by 2040. Many avenues are still wide open if we're not too lazy, blinkered and selfish to try them.
Some examples of unnecessary practices:
-- Half of British emissions come from inefficiencies in construction, discarded and unused food, electronics, clothing
-- Two thirds of American energy is wasted
-- Americans subsidize fossil fuel at $5 Trillion each and every year
-- Americans waste 1/4 of their food, which makes each meal's carbon footprint 1/3 larger than it has to be
-- Bitcoin and cryptocurrency mining consumes more electricity than is generated by all the world's solar panels combined, wiping out gains of several generations of green energy innovation
-- the average citizen of the West produces many times more emissions than anyone in Asia, just out of habit
-- it's not necessary for Westerners to adopt the life of the global poor.
-- 70% of energy produced on the planet is lost as waste heat
-- if the average American were confined to the carbon footprint of European counterparts, U.S. carbon emissions would fall by more than half
-- if the world's richest 10% were to limited to the European footprint, global emissions would fall by 1/3
Some examples of unnecessary practices:
-- Half of British emissions come from inefficiencies in construction, discarded and unused food, electronics, clothing
-- Two thirds of American energy is wasted
-- Americans subsidize fossil fuel at $5 Trillion each and every year
-- Americans waste 1/4 of their food, which makes each meal's carbon footprint 1/3 larger than it has to be
-- Bitcoin and cryptocurrency mining consumes more electricity than is generated by all the world's solar panels combined, wiping out gains of several generations of green energy innovation
-- the average citizen of the West produces many times more emissions than anyone in Asia, just out of habit
-- it's not necessary for Westerners to adopt the life of the global poor.
-- 70% of energy produced on the planet is lost as waste heat
-- if the average American were confined to the carbon footprint of European counterparts, U.S. carbon emissions would fall by more than half
-- if the world's richest 10% were to limited to the European footprint, global emissions would fall by 1/3
The problem is, according to climate studies, individual lifestyle choices don't add up to enough unless they are scaled up by politics.
I think Inslee can lead the national mindset to see that without fossil fuel, green energy scaling shouldn't be imposible.
Recent costs of adaptation in the form of green energy have fallen so much that the old cost equation has flipped -- we now know it will be much much more expensive to not act on climate than to take the most radical, aggressive action today. Today.
In 2018, one paper calcaluted the global cost of rapid energy transition by 2030 -- negative $26 Trillion -- yes, it would make us all that much money, compared to our static system -- in only 12 years.
Right now there are carbon capture technologies that take more carbon out of our systems than contribute to it, "anti-industrial" plants which are expensive at $30,000 each. To match the amount of carbon we presently emit into the atmosphere would require 100 million of them at a cost of $30 Trillion, or roughly 40% of global GDP. To reduce carbon by 20 parts per million per year would require 1 billion of them, $300 Trillion, or four times our total global GDP.
The cost will likely fall. A 2018 paper by David Keith demonstrated a method for removing carbon at $94 per ton to neutralize our 32 gigatons of global emissions -- the cost would be $3 Trillion.
If that sounds expensive, remember that we already pay fossil fuel industries $5 Trillion per year. AND we just gave the U.S.'s richies a $2.3 Trillion tax cut.
We in the U.S. and the world can afford what we want to afford. Turning from our cascading disasters is entirely within human control. How slowly, thoroughly or well we do it is up to us.
After this election, we will never be able to say to our children and grandchildren that we didn't know.
We do know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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yep..hes my Gov.. Im still rooting for Joe but I will take Jay any day of the week!
samnsara
Mar 2019
#1
He's our dark horse progressive. Can't wait to watch him in primary debates and town halls.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#5
He's the only candidate who's been a Governor. Why would he be better as a DOE secretary? n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#72
I totally agree! Harris can bring in at least two demographics -- women and African Americans.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#13
I'm still for Harris, but would also be delighted if Inslee got the nomination!
MoonRiver
Mar 2019
#14
I recommend David Wallace-Wells' "The Uninhabitable Earth."(2019) It convinces me: climate change
ancianita
Mar 2019
#27
I just don't understand why you doubt his winnability. Do you have real reasons?
ancianita
Mar 2019
#36
My belief, well founded by climate scientists, is that endorsing a climate change candidate
ancianita
Mar 2019
#46
Watch the news... it's already bad. Climate change isn't coming. It's already started.
Bucky
Mar 2019
#54
Please don't take insult where none's intended. It really is SO much worse than media show.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#64
Here's a picture of what you and Inslee are talking about. From a little over a year ago.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#65
We all should. We've passed over the climate change threshhold. Inslee is the visionary gamechanger
ancianita
Mar 2019
#71
You're not my only audience here, so just calm down about what I wrote two whole days ago.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#143
Inslee is my favorite candidate so far. His state was voted best for business and employees. He
talking-liberally
Mar 2019
#19
Any candidate who doesn't grasp that climate change is the biggest threat we face
Autumn
Mar 2019
#25
In The Rolling Stone: "Jay Inslee Wants to Be the First Climate President. Is America Ready?"
ancianita
Mar 2019
#28
Sorry. All the wealth and knowledge of it in the world won't matter past 2 degrees Celsius.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#37
We'll see in the debates. Inslee has more facts packed into his politics than anyone I know.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#44
When the climate numbers out there come out in debates, they'll matter a helluva lot. And suddenly.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#106
Jay is very progressive on economics, and he wants to use a Green New deal to help
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#73
Ask them how they will prioritize climate change energy infrastructure change.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#49
I think he's trying to actually save beaches so DU can keep its swimsuit competition.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#55
We have lots of good Democrats running, but Governor Inslee is on top of the list now for me
trickyguy
Mar 2019
#57
Thank you! I'm so glad you're reading this book. If enough of us do, it's the game changer
ancianita
Mar 2019
#60
Inslee: "I wish nothing but the best for Donald Trump, including having the top bunk."
ancianita
Mar 2019
#63
Thought all our candidates felt this way. Glad he's emphasizing it. He's absolutely right
onit2day
Mar 2019
#74
I'm in for Kamala, but I'll happily vote for Inslee if he wins the primary. I like him!
Squinch
Mar 2019
#76
Yep. He and Harris are the IT factor for the election. Harris/Inslee or Inslee/Harris in 2020.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#81
I don't think I'd vote for Harris as the nominee. So that is not an option for me.
Honeycombe8
Mar 2019
#86
He WAS brilliant to go down on that assault weapons ban hill! Glad you have a birthdate in common!
ancianita
Mar 2019
#85
Know why green hasn't beaten fossil energy yet? First To Market. That's all you've proven.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#103
Sorry, your cred's not convincing.Renewable energy is the only path through, even if not out of,
ancianita
Mar 2019
#108
I'm pretty sure that I don't hold panicked climate scientists in contempt, but in highest regard.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#121
So all that you've concluded is that, in 30 years, papers have shown disturbing flaws; and THAT,
ancianita
Mar 2019
#133
Thanks for your posts. I'm old, too, not a scientist, and with only familiarity on climate issues,
ancianita
Mar 2019
#140
You sure say a lot for someone not trying to convince anyone of anything.
marylandblue
Mar 2019
#138
Of course, no one's plan in full will ever pass, or be 100% effective. It's a starting point.
Honeycombe8
Mar 2019
#115
An Inslee/Harris ticket is the way to go. They're both smart and appealing candidates.
trickyguy
Mar 2019
#100
POTUS won't matter once the Earth passes the 2 degree Celsius mark. I'm shocked people don't see
ancianita
Mar 2019
#105
The actions taken to address climate change won't depend on which Democrat is in the White House.
Garrett78
Mar 2019
#110
Climate disasters don't care. Except WE do. We want the BEST Democrat in the WH.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#118
It's time for us to see ahead better. And plan accordingly. Governor Inslee is ON IT.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#120
Maybe. Thanks for reading. If anyone cares to clarify what you've said, I'd appreciate it.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#123
It's not meant as a lecture. Only a perspective that needs foregrounding in the election.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#128
Now that Brown isn't in the running, I'm going to do a little more reading on Inslee.
lkinwi
Mar 2019
#129
Recent video edits are now in the OP. Sorry I missed the removals due to copyright.
ancianita
Mar 2019
#146