Democratic Primaries

empedocles

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1. ''Green New Deal, College loan forgiveness and free college for all, Medicare for all'

Reply to Peacetrain (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 02:39 PM

Jun 2019

Sounds like the raw meat for Republican campaign theme/slogan/meme/jokes/smirks

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Green New Deal, College loan forgiveness and free college for all, Medicare for all? [View all] Peacetrain Jun 2019 OP

''Green New Deal, College loan forgiveness and free college for all, Medicare for all' empedocles Jun 2019 #1

It does...and that concerns me..BUT, we can move past that if we have our ducks in a row Peacetrain Jun 2019 #2

ducks in a row for 2021 empedocles Jun 2019 #4

These proposals are fairly popular among the general public. BlueWI Jun 2019 #15

You mean fairly popular among general Progressive Democrats? empedocles Jun 2019 #18

No. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #35

Only until the find out the details and how much it would cost then they turn against it. mr_liberal Jun 2019 #52

In the general public, according to survey data. BlueWI Jun 2019 #65

Any program is popular until someone has to pay for it. Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #56

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #63

Who is going to pay for all of that "pie in the sky"? oasis Jun 2019 #3

the people with all the money. duh. shanny Jun 2019 #7

Right, problem solved. Thanks oasis Jun 2019 #9

You're welcome. shanny Jun 2019 #73

Nope, it will be on the backs of middle class tax payers leftofcool Jun 2019 #71

Nope. shanny Jun 2019 #72

Thank you True Blue American Jun 2019 #38

You are right. LibFarmer Jun 2019 #5

Where they gonna go? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #14

Every other country doesn't have the US rigorous training LibFarmer Jun 2019 #19

Oh nonsense. Doctors in Europe and other Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #25

England is suffering a doctor shortage. They are bringing in doctors less well trained, unfamiliar emmaverybo Jun 2019 #32

The UK has more doctors per Capita than the US. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #39

Shortages of GPS. Major problems in A + E care. Links: emmaverybo Jun 2019 #46

Yes and the U.K. has more doctors Per Capita Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #49

Yes, for his own purposes. All the wrong ones. Canada probably a better model than Europe emmaverybo Jun 2019 #66

The talking point is bull. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #70

That's not right, and doctors are a bad example due to insurance and other confounding factors. marylandblue Jun 2019 #27

Doctors can't just spend less time or charge more. Insurance reimburses by procedure code. wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #78

The future is unknown to us all. Do we stand paralyzed by fear and do nothing? No. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #6

If Democrats cut taxes to $1 for every American and Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #8

So, how is all this free stuff going to be paid for? customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #10

Is there a problem with taxes on the rich? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #12

Yes, several customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #17

Where are they going to go? Trenzalore Jun 2019 #22

Somalia? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #26

West Coast has some of the highest taxes Trenzalore Jun 2019 #28

They'll find some island customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #36

Their assets are still here Trenzalore Jun 2019 #40

And in many cases customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #41

Anyone who knows how can get a Caribbean citizenship Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #58

First, vote for Democratic Senators in competitive or donate to them. marylandblue Jun 2019 #29

There's a couple of key differences between the inheritance tax and any proposed wealth tax customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #37

Sure, it's just not a given that it's Unconstitutional. marylandblue Jun 2019 #43

Being as we have a history customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #44

If we take the Senate, we might get a wealth tax through. marylandblue Jun 2019 #47

Why is the wealth tax such an aphrodisiac to some? Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #60

Because our society privileges unearned wealth over earned imcome marylandblue Jun 2019 #64

The rich should pay their fair share Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #67

All taxes are confiscatory, and I'm not talking about communism or socialism, marylandblue Jun 2019 #69

we taxed possions in this country long before we taxed income questionseverything Jun 2019 #51

Yes, Warren Buffet is OK with this customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #53

well we are working on votin out those congresscritters too questionseverything Jun 2019 #54

Good luck customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #55

the primaries are exactly the time for big ideas questionseverything Jun 2019 #59

And then we get to the general and these big ideas cost us the election...when we are portrayed as Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #75

We don't let them get control. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #11

Even then LibFarmer Jun 2019 #20

They went for the unicorn of supply side economics 40 years ago. marylandblue Jun 2019 #30

just want to point out the aca never needed 60 votes questionseverything Jun 2019 #57

But the original plan was to pass ACA outright LibFarmer Jun 2019 #61

The ACA was not passed in Reconciliation...the GOP tried to get rid of it that way. 60 votes were Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #62

No the ACA did need 60 votes...and MFA could not be passed in reconciliation... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #76

The good (?) news is that these things will not happen any time soon... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #13

I would suggest people stop paying student loans now! Nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #16

If I did that I would end up on an exclusion list. Trenzalore Jun 2019 #23

The compounded interest continues. You go into default which has many consequences. If you emmaverybo Jun 2019 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Politicub Jun 2019 #21

Absent a big change in the Senate Trenzalore Jun 2019 #24

It doesn't have to take 8 years to do that. If you know what you are doing, it can be much faster. marylandblue Jun 2019 #31

How exactly? Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #74

Like I said, you have to know what you are doing. marylandblue Jun 2019 #77

America has spent $5.9 trillion on wars in the Middle East and Asia since 2001 progressoid Jun 2019 #34

But they were sneaky customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #45

All these plans are great but come with a hefty price tag FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #42

Warren and Sanders both can only win through a major political realignment, marylandblue Jun 2019 #48

I like how crap that damn near any other industrialized country can pay for... Humanist_Activist Jun 2019 #50

Well the only way to actually prevent them from giving themselves another tax cut cstanleytech Jun 2019 #68

There is never an objection raised when the war budget is raised. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #79

Trillions for war. Austerity for people. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #80

Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #82

According to the organization that's writing the "green new deal", we're still a year or more.... George II Jun 2019 #81