Democratic Primaries

Humanist_Activist

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50. I like how crap that damn near any other industrialized country can pay for...

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:25 PM

Jun 2019

is "pie in the sky" shit for the richest nation to have ever existed on planet Earth.

What is it about the good ole U.S. of fucking A. that makes things like Universal Health Care, or affordable college so fucking impossible.

All you are saying is "its hard so we shouldn't even try".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Green New Deal, College loan forgiveness and free college for all, Medicare for all? [View all] Peacetrain Jun 2019 OP

''Green New Deal, College loan forgiveness and free college for all, Medicare for all' empedocles Jun 2019 #1

It does...and that concerns me..BUT, we can move past that if we have our ducks in a row Peacetrain Jun 2019 #2

ducks in a row for 2021 empedocles Jun 2019 #4

These proposals are fairly popular among the general public. BlueWI Jun 2019 #15

You mean fairly popular among general Progressive Democrats? empedocles Jun 2019 #18

No. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #35

Only until the find out the details and how much it would cost then they turn against it. mr_liberal Jun 2019 #52

In the general public, according to survey data. BlueWI Jun 2019 #65

Any program is popular until someone has to pay for it. Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #56

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #63

Who is going to pay for all of that "pie in the sky"? oasis Jun 2019 #3

the people with all the money. duh. shanny Jun 2019 #7

Right, problem solved. Thanks oasis Jun 2019 #9

You're welcome. shanny Jun 2019 #73

Nope, it will be on the backs of middle class tax payers leftofcool Jun 2019 #71

Nope. shanny Jun 2019 #72

Thank you True Blue American Jun 2019 #38

You are right. LibFarmer Jun 2019 #5

Where they gonna go? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #14

Every other country doesn't have the US rigorous training LibFarmer Jun 2019 #19

Oh nonsense. Doctors in Europe and other Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #25

England is suffering a doctor shortage. They are bringing in doctors less well trained, unfamiliar emmaverybo Jun 2019 #32

The UK has more doctors per Capita than the US. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #39

Shortages of GPS. Major problems in A + E care. Links: emmaverybo Jun 2019 #46

Yes and the U.K. has more doctors Per Capita Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #49

Yes, for his own purposes. All the wrong ones. Canada probably a better model than Europe emmaverybo Jun 2019 #66

The talking point is bull. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #70

That's not right, and doctors are a bad example due to insurance and other confounding factors. marylandblue Jun 2019 #27

Doctors can't just spend less time or charge more. Insurance reimburses by procedure code. wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #78

The future is unknown to us all. Do we stand paralyzed by fear and do nothing? No. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #6

If Democrats cut taxes to $1 for every American and Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #8

So, how is all this free stuff going to be paid for? customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #10

Is there a problem with taxes on the rich? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #12

Yes, several customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #17

Where are they going to go? Trenzalore Jun 2019 #22

Somalia? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #26

West Coast has some of the highest taxes Trenzalore Jun 2019 #28

They'll find some island customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #36

Their assets are still here Trenzalore Jun 2019 #40

And in many cases customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #41

Anyone who knows how can get a Caribbean citizenship Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #58

First, vote for Democratic Senators in competitive or donate to them. marylandblue Jun 2019 #29

There's a couple of key differences between the inheritance tax and any proposed wealth tax customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #37

Sure, it's just not a given that it's Unconstitutional. marylandblue Jun 2019 #43

Being as we have a history customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #44

If we take the Senate, we might get a wealth tax through. marylandblue Jun 2019 #47

Why is the wealth tax such an aphrodisiac to some? Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #60

Because our society privileges unearned wealth over earned imcome marylandblue Jun 2019 #64

The rich should pay their fair share Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #67

All taxes are confiscatory, and I'm not talking about communism or socialism, marylandblue Jun 2019 #69

we taxed possions in this country long before we taxed income questionseverything Jun 2019 #51

Yes, Warren Buffet is OK with this customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #53

well we are working on votin out those congresscritters too questionseverything Jun 2019 #54

Good luck customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #55

the primaries are exactly the time for big ideas questionseverything Jun 2019 #59

And then we get to the general and these big ideas cost us the election...when we are portrayed as Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #75

We don't let them get control. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #11

Even then LibFarmer Jun 2019 #20

They went for the unicorn of supply side economics 40 years ago. marylandblue Jun 2019 #30

just want to point out the aca never needed 60 votes questionseverything Jun 2019 #57

But the original plan was to pass ACA outright LibFarmer Jun 2019 #61

The ACA was not passed in Reconciliation...the GOP tried to get rid of it that way. 60 votes were Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #62

No the ACA did need 60 votes...and MFA could not be passed in reconciliation... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #76

The good (?) news is that these things will not happen any time soon... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #13

I would suggest people stop paying student loans now! Nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #16

If I did that I would end up on an exclusion list. Trenzalore Jun 2019 #23

The compounded interest continues. You go into default which has many consequences. If you emmaverybo Jun 2019 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Politicub Jun 2019 #21

Absent a big change in the Senate Trenzalore Jun 2019 #24

It doesn't have to take 8 years to do that. If you know what you are doing, it can be much faster. marylandblue Jun 2019 #31

How exactly? Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #74

Like I said, you have to know what you are doing. marylandblue Jun 2019 #77

America has spent $5.9 trillion on wars in the Middle East and Asia since 2001 progressoid Jun 2019 #34

But they were sneaky customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #45

All these plans are great but come with a hefty price tag FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #42

Warren and Sanders both can only win through a major political realignment, marylandblue Jun 2019 #48

I like how crap that damn near any other industrialized country can pay for... Humanist_Activist Jun 2019 #50

Well the only way to actually prevent them from giving themselves another tax cut cstanleytech Jun 2019 #68

There is never an objection raised when the war budget is raised. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #79

Trillions for war. Austerity for people. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #80

Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #82

According to the organization that's writing the "green new deal", we're still a year or more.... George II Jun 2019 #81