Democratic Primaries

LongtimeAZDem

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31. This incredibly superficial statement:

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 01:28 PM

Jun 2019

“And that’s exactly what happened to 2016. We picked the logically fitting candidate, but that candidate did not inspire the turnout that we needed.”

demonstrates a severe and fundamental lack of understanding of the factors in play during the last election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Ocasio-Cortez on Biden: 'I think that he's not a pragmatic choice' [View all] brooklynite Jun 2019 OP

Biden to AOC: Thanks for the endorsement. Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #1

Bazinga! George II Jun 2019 #2

Snap! LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #26

Yup, big thanks to AOC Green Line Jun 2019 #39

Brilliant. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #62

So who IS her "pragmatic choice"? Easy to reject one of 24, much more difficult to choose one of 24. George II Jun 2019 #3

It will be Bernie Sanders kcr Jun 2019 #69

What changed in the 2018 Blue Wave, Younger voter turnout. bluewater Jun 2019 #4

20 red Congressional seats won in 2018. Arithmetic empedocles Jun 2019 #8

I tend to agree regarding younger voters. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think tRump will be enough KPN Jun 2019 #11

Oh please..sick of the excitement crap...fact is vote for a Democrat or suffer the consequences. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #43

Oh, that'll convince them. KPN Jun 2019 #45

If getting rid of Trump doesn't convince them than there is no hope...better try to find another Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #72

Biden polls very well among millennials though. From March emulatorloo Jun 2019 #79

There are a number of factors contributing to increased voter turnout in every age group in 2018.... George II Jun 2019 #16

More threats from those on 'our side'...really. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #5

Threat? Hardly. More like an observation. Perhaps not as well stated as it could have been, but KPN Jun 2019 #12

Here is the problem...candidates that you find exciting are unlikely Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #44

I'm not convinced Biden can win. He does KPN Jun 2019 #46

There is no sure bet...but I think Biden is the only one who can win a primary (Ryan might win) Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #71

She doesn't make much sense here. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #6

I guess she is referring to the more progressive/younger voters who might be turned off by Biden. honest.abe Jun 2019 #17

Younger voters are the age demographic that historically has the lowest % turnout. George II Jun 2019 #58

It's not a simple calculus loyalsister Jun 2019 #29

Seems the perfect candidate would just get the votes. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #30

There is no perfect candidate loyalsister Jun 2019 #37

"There is no perfect candidate" SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #38

Particularly among some Black men who my future son in law (POC) says Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #47

It is interesting. Those like Rep. Cortez intentionally use emotional trigger words to get still_one Jun 2019 #7

Pretty effective when the GOP do it en masse 24/7 on any issue they are amped up on. Seems to KPN Jun 2019 #15

This among other issues is why DONT like her!! She rushes in where angels fear to go. Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #9

Isn't she the one involved in all that crap about murielm99 Jun 2019 #10

I really like AOC, but one thing I don't care for DrToast Jun 2019 #14

Agreed, she starts too much crap within the party dsp3000 Jun 2019 #33

Let AOC rail against Biden NYMinute Jun 2019 #13

You are right...and I like Beto too. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #73

This is a very dumb argument peggysue2 Jun 2019 #18

Oh...well stated!! Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #19

Indeed, Peggysue.. she totally tried to Cha Jun 2019 #64

I don't think her endorsement would benefit Joe Biden. comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #20

Pragmatic Otto Lidenbrock Jun 2019 #21

Here here! Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #23

Okay. How, without a Democratic Senate, is the pragmatic guy going to get his proposals passed? Demit Jun 2019 #59

No one will get anything through...but the GOP won't get judges and that is huge. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #75

An un-pragmatic Democrat will nominate good judges just as well as a pragmatic one. Demit Jun 2019 #77

Ah but we are talking about who can win. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #78

No, I was asking another poster a question. Demit Jun 2019 #80

No offense, I could care less who AOC endorses or doesn't. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #22

I do, but only as data for evaluating her, not those she opines about LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #42

I agree. Time to turn the page. jalan48 Jun 2019 #24

What an asinine comment. Wow. themaguffin Jun 2019 #25

As a former NYC bartender, she certainly knows what she is talking about... Princetonian Jun 2019 #27

She should at least acknowledge that her politics are not representative of the country as a whole. dem4decades Jun 2019 #28

This incredibly superficial statement: LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #31

Some people need to do a little research before making proclamations about "facts"... George II Jun 2019 #49

Yep; AOC needs to understand that being elected by 100k people in a district that would have LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #50

Yea ok Watchfoxheadexplodes Jun 2019 #32

Well this is one I will use the trash button on. Butterflylady Jun 2019 #34

Ask Gretchen Whitmer and Sharice Davids if they care about an AOC endorsement. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #35

Moderates took the house, Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #48

Bazinga! George II Jun 2019 #52

Excellent point, Tarheel.. and Lacy Clay of Missouri! Cha Jun 2019 #67

Meh. Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #36

AOC needs to get out of her bubble. RelativelyJones Jun 2019 #40

She needs break free from her Justice Dems/Jimmy Dore friend group kcr Jun 2019 #70

He is a very pragmatic candidate treestar Jun 2019 #41

Turnout going back to Jimmy Carter's election: George II Jun 2019 #51

She is 100% right melman Jun 2019 #53

See posts #49 and #51. Thank you. George II Jun 2019 #57

I already did melman Jun 2019 #60

She said we didn't get the turnout. 2016 was the HIGHEST turnout by voters.... George II Jun 2019 #61

Another good reason to vote for him. IluvPitties Jun 2019 #54

If Democrats nominate Beto O'Rourke they can have BOTH Indygram Jun 2019 #55

AOC comments are not helpful for anyone. FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #56

Exactly.. they're the opposite of helpful. Cha Jun 2019 #66

Former Rep. Joe Crowley became addicted to Mel's "Blue Plate Special". oasis Jun 2019 #63

Yep, you can bet they will be lining up to take her on in a primary;the Amazon thing was Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #76

Hillary got 66 Million Votes, AOC.. and the Russians Cha Jun 2019 #65

This is what you call a self fulfilling prophecy ecstatic Jun 2019 #68

Most Democrats are moderate. Most "likely voters" who are Dems are moderate. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #74