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In reply to the discussion: Warren the reformer v. Sanders the revolutionary [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)11. Some other observations about other differences:
She has the respect and admiration of her peers, and influenced some of Obama's legislative pushes, even before becoming a Senator.
from 2015:
Warren's real power lies in her outsized influence, not just for a freshman senator, but for virtually any elected official in Washington. Her pen may not have touched many pieces of legislation that made their way to Obama's desk since her election in 2012, but her fingerprints are all over them.
Warren would be a strong spokeswoman for the party in Congress or outside of it; she spurred creation of a federal agencythe Consumer Financial Protection Bureau without the title of "senator" in front of her name. But allies say Warren's best tool is her seat at the committee table in the Senate. Through hearings on the Senate Banking Committee in particular, Warren's questioning and persistence has lead to rules changes at various federal agencies without needing to get legislation through a Republican-controlled Congress. Most notably, Warren successfully pushed the SEC to require banks to admit wrongdoing in negotiating many settlements.
Even critics acknowledge that Warren's influence, particularly over federal agencies and her Democratic colleagues, goes beyond her fairly brief record of legislative accomplishment.
"She's both at the same time highly ineffective and influentialand I know that sounds inconsistent but it's not," one senior financial services executive, a Warren critic, said. "She has no legislative accomplishment other than to derail a few [nominees], which is easy to do. But to her credit, she is highly influential. Members of the House Democratic Caucus and Senate Democratic Caucus "¦ are really looking over their shoulders."
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But perhaps more significantly, Warren displayed a restraint that has kept her, largely, in the good graces of her colleagues. Unlike Cruz and Sen. Mike Lee, to whom she often is compared, Warren made her opinion known and then allowed her colleagues to vote as they saw fit. Cruz and Lee, meanwhile, threatened to tank the whole funding package and kept their colleagues in Washington for a few late-night and weekend sessions ahead of their holiday recess.
Warren would be a strong spokeswoman for the party in Congress or outside of it; she spurred creation of a federal agencythe Consumer Financial Protection Bureau without the title of "senator" in front of her name. But allies say Warren's best tool is her seat at the committee table in the Senate. Through hearings on the Senate Banking Committee in particular, Warren's questioning and persistence has lead to rules changes at various federal agencies without needing to get legislation through a Republican-controlled Congress. Most notably, Warren successfully pushed the SEC to require banks to admit wrongdoing in negotiating many settlements.
Even critics acknowledge that Warren's influence, particularly over federal agencies and her Democratic colleagues, goes beyond her fairly brief record of legislative accomplishment.
"She's both at the same time highly ineffective and influentialand I know that sounds inconsistent but it's not," one senior financial services executive, a Warren critic, said. "She has no legislative accomplishment other than to derail a few [nominees], which is easy to do. But to her credit, she is highly influential. Members of the House Democratic Caucus and Senate Democratic Caucus "¦ are really looking over their shoulders."
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But perhaps more significantly, Warren displayed a restraint that has kept her, largely, in the good graces of her colleagues. Unlike Cruz and Sen. Mike Lee, to whom she often is compared, Warren made her opinion known and then allowed her colleagues to vote as they saw fit. Cruz and Lee, meanwhile, threatened to tank the whole funding package and kept their colleagues in Washington for a few late-night and weekend sessions ahead of their holiday recess.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/is-elizabeth-warren-an-effective-senator/449349/
She's an educator, and makes sure that her message is being understood, and takes care to modulate the language to the group that she is talking to, not at. She's as comfortable, clear and effective in a one-on-one interview as she is speaking from a podium.
Warren listens to people. She doesn't brush them off when they ask for details of her plans.
You will never hear, "Well, I'm not going to speculate on that," or "Well, that's an issue. That's definitely an issue. It's certainly a real concern and we should deal with it, but just let me say...(changes topic)" from Warren.
She has pushed the conversation about economics, and income inequality further than any other candidate, and most other politicians:
Also from 2015:
"We have seen a race to the top on Elizabeth Warren's ideas, including debt-free college, expanding Social Security, and holding Wall Street banks accountable," said Stephanie Taylor, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-elections-2016/index.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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He used the "some people say" construction. Back to the topic: what policies are "revolutionary"
emulatorloo
Jun 2019
#7
He used that construction as a reply because it was the construction used against him by
Uncle Joe
Jun 2019
#10
The original tweeter even corrected the record to include the "some people" after he was pilloried
Hassin Bin Sober
Jun 2019
#21
Not what I got from that at all. I saw that he was getting prickly about being reminded
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#26
I really dig how you allow for the context and nuance to Sanders' statements
LanternWaste
Jun 2019
#8
"Some people say... (conspiracy theory)" is promoting a conspiracy theory, albeit passively
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#15
Bernie didn't promote it, a hostile interviewer did and Bernie responded in kind
Uncle Joe
Jun 2019
#17
So replying with a conspiracy theory is an appropriate response to an interviewer who
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#19
Why are you posting a highly edited tweet as in post # 18 missing key text and context?
Uncle Joe
Jun 2019
#51
So tell us why you posted an article from a corporate media conglomerate mouthpiece
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#52
So it's possible for a "corporate conglomerate media mouthpiece" to actually come up with
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#58
So you believe the six corporate media conglomerate monopolies are "strawmen"
Uncle Joe
Jun 2019
#61
He avoided answering the question, and got testy when she didn't just nod and smile at
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#28
So again... why was he even talking to a "corporate media conglomerate mouthpiece?"
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#35
That's NOT TRUE. He signed the pledge to work for the Dem candidate and says he will.
hedda_foil
Jun 2019
#6
Not good enough. We don't need him dragging the party and the nominee down again.
MrsCoffee
Jun 2019
#43
I'm good with him sticking around the Senate. We don't need his brand of negativity once a nominee
MrsCoffee
Jun 2019
#46
So.Not.True... but hey, it's Bernie, so make up whatever you want I guess.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2019
#82
But isn't The Hill a "corporate media conglomerate"... for whom you are pushing an article?
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#44
Interesting that the author of the OP states that conglomerate corporate media mouthpieces are
ehrnst
Jun 2019
#57
I post from virtually all sources including the corporate media conglomerates,
Uncle Joe
Jun 2019
#54