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Gothmog

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14. Charlie Cook-The 2020 Path Democrats Shouldn't Take
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 07:52 PM
Mar 2019

I tend to agree with Charlie Cook. We need to run a candidate who can beat trump https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/2020-path-democrats-shouldnt-take

If this election is going to be a referendum on Donald Trump as a person and president, then Democrats ought to have a good shot at winning. But if the election becomes somewhat more complicated, with Democrats embarking on a path that is considerably more ideological than the one that Presidents Clinton and Obama pursued—the former going center-left, the latter further left, but not too far—then that could make for a considerably more competitive general election. The most recent growth area in the Democratic Party has been among college-educated, suburban women, and their movement toward the Democrats is more the product of their aversion to Trump than an embrace of democratic socialism.....

But when these same voters were asked how they felt about voting for someone who was a socialist, 43 percent said “very uncomfortable” and another 29 percent “have some reservations.” Just 4 percent were “enthusiastic” and 21 percent “comfortable.” Among all adults, 6 percent viewed socialism very positively, 12 percent somewhat positively, 27 percent neutrally, 14 percent somewhat negatively and 36 percent very negatively. According to First Read, the morning newsletter published by NBC News’s political unit, just 9 percent of independents and 13 percent of moderates view socialism favorably, a flashing red light for Democrats contemplating embracing that approach.

It is very clear, listening to Trump as well as to GOP strategists, that they are building up democratic socialism as the straw man to knock down in this campaign. Their goal obviously is to make electing a Democratic president an unacceptable alternative to Trump. So it basically comes down to whether Democrats want this election to be about Trump or about embarking on a new and different philosophical direction. One of those paths seems to be very risky.

I want to run a candidate who is electable. Beating trump is the most important thing
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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A lot of Dems do as well. brooklynite Mar 2019 #1
Idgaf what republicans want. onecaliberal Mar 2019 #2
THAT MyOwnPeace Mar 2019 #5
Exactly. We cannot allow republicans to control our actions. onecaliberal Mar 2019 #6
Precisely Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #7
I care what they want as much as they care what we need. onecaliberal Mar 2019 #9
You and me both, my friend. calimary Mar 2019 #36
How did that work out in the 2014 midterms? Oh yeah, the Democrats were slaughtered. DetlefK Mar 2019 #3
victory up and down the ticket is most important objective rampartc Mar 2019 #4
I understand that even some Dems want a moderate candidate Docreed2003 Mar 2019 #8
Great quote. Thank you. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #10
Yep! calimary Mar 2019 #37
Exactly. The focus must be on turning out the base, not flipping Trump voters. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #20
+1 Docreed2003 Mar 2019 #24
The Republicans (and Trumpists especially) are panicked that Joe Biden will be the nominee. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #11
He'll win back the three states that were supposed to be "The Blue Wall" Sugarcoated Mar 2019 #16
Fuck the Republicans. They can run a centrist candidate on their ticket. Or one who is Autumn Mar 2019 #12
No they don't...clearly the win in 18 was in moderate districts... far left candidate Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #13
Charlie Cook-The 2020 Path Democrats Shouldn't Take Gothmog Mar 2019 #14
46% of Florida exit poll responders said Andrew Gillum was too liberal for the state Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #22
I like Gilliam but I agree that he was the wrong nominee Gothmog Mar 2019 #30
The opposite. They already are beating up on socialism. R B Garr Mar 2019 #15
what? Have never ever seen any right wing encouragement for a centrist!!! Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #17
Really? The likes of George Will, Steve Schmidt and others do so regularly. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #18
I think that's just crazy talk. If they "want" someone Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #19
We can agree to disagree. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #21
How about we go with someone immensely qualified?? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #23
Those people don't get much attention, though. R B Garr Mar 2019 #25
They are loving it. A Joe Biden nomination stops this BS in its tracks. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #26
+1, yes. Trump is not a serious person. He just wants a R B Garr Mar 2019 #27
I seriously don't know how Trump could pull his bullying behavior with Joe Biden. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #28
"Centrist or self-described socialist" is a false choice. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #32
Actually, I wasn't even thinking of winning Trump voters, just R B Garr Mar 2019 #33
That was my point. Obama resurrected Biden's political career. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #34
Since the majority of democratic voters.... quickesst Mar 2019 #29
I want a candidate who is electable Gothmog Mar 2019 #31
There is truth to this Renew Deal Mar 2019 #35
Exactly right. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #38
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