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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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In reply to the discussion: Do we want to elect someone who will push the party to the left or someone who will get things done. [View all]Gothmog
(145,481 posts)90. Charlie Cook-The 2020 Path Democrats Shouldn't Take
I tend to agree with Charlie Cook. We need to run a candidate who can beat trump https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/2020-path-democrats-shouldnt-take
If this election is going to be a referendum on Donald Trump as a person and president, then Democrats ought to have a good shot at winning. But if the election becomes somewhat more complicated, with Democrats embarking on a path that is considerably more ideological than the one that Presidents Clinton and Obama pursuedthe former going center-left, the latter further left, but not too farthen that could make for a considerably more competitive general election. The most recent growth area in the Democratic Party has been among college-educated, suburban women, and their movement toward the Democrats is more the product of their aversion to Trump than an embrace of democratic socialism.....
But when these same voters were asked how they felt about voting for someone who was a socialist, 43 percent said very uncomfortable and another 29 percent have some reservations. Just 4 percent were enthusiastic and 21 percent comfortable. Among all adults, 6 percent viewed socialism very positively, 12 percent somewhat positively, 27 percent neutrally, 14 percent somewhat negatively and 36 percent very negatively. According to First Read, the morning newsletter published by NBC Newss political unit, just 9 percent of independents and 13 percent of moderates view socialism favorably, a flashing red light for Democrats contemplating embracing that approach.
It is very clear, listening to Trump as well as to GOP strategists, that they are building up democratic socialism as the straw man to knock down in this campaign. Their goal obviously is to make electing a Democratic president an unacceptable alternative to Trump. So it basically comes down to whether Democrats want this election to be about Trump or about embarking on a new and different philosophical direction. One of those paths seems to be very risky.
But when these same voters were asked how they felt about voting for someone who was a socialist, 43 percent said very uncomfortable and another 29 percent have some reservations. Just 4 percent were enthusiastic and 21 percent comfortable. Among all adults, 6 percent viewed socialism very positively, 12 percent somewhat positively, 27 percent neutrally, 14 percent somewhat negatively and 36 percent very negatively. According to First Read, the morning newsletter published by NBC Newss political unit, just 9 percent of independents and 13 percent of moderates view socialism favorably, a flashing red light for Democrats contemplating embracing that approach.
It is very clear, listening to Trump as well as to GOP strategists, that they are building up democratic socialism as the straw man to knock down in this campaign. Their goal obviously is to make electing a Democratic president an unacceptable alternative to Trump. So it basically comes down to whether Democrats want this election to be about Trump or about embarking on a new and different philosophical direction. One of those paths seems to be very risky.
I want to run a candidate who is electable. Beating trump is the most important thing
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Do we want to elect someone who will push the party to the left or someone who will get things done. [View all]
Eko
Mar 2019
OP
So Joe Manchin ...I am no fan but one way to make it blue is elect and REELECT any democrat
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2019
#26
How (specifically) does a divided government allow for one or the other, yet not both?
LanternWaste
Mar 2019
#57
Because lots of people who live on the coasts think the entire country thinks and votes like they do
redstatebluegirl
Mar 2019
#52
The latter. Even more, we need someone who can corral the broadest public support.
WheelWalker
Mar 2019
#5
Nominate people that have bold visions and push your friends to vote for them.
denverbill
Mar 2019
#34
I want to elect someone who will fight for liberalism. Not someone who will push our party away from
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#8
Well, there are some ways I can think of, but I can't promise they will work
marylandblue
Mar 2019
#24
When you find the law that says the President can't create a thing called "a plan"
marylandblue
Mar 2019
#75
Biden is the best qualified with the most experience in national and global diplomacy.
LakeArenal
Mar 2019
#30
Yuuup! And also to defend the Obama record that trump lies about constantly. nt
Kahuna7
Mar 2019
#87
Totally with you! Without a candidate squarely and knowledgeably behind climate change, any
ancianita
Mar 2019
#74
The most important consideration for me in the upcoming election is transforming our nation and
walkingman
Mar 2019
#81
I'm worried about the rightward lurch to fascism making this question moot
Starry Messenger
Mar 2019
#43
The CA GOP is nearly dead, but we are electing great liberal Democrats to office not leftists.
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#62
Both. And we have plenty of candidates who can do this already ... Harris, Booker, Warren, Sanders,
KPN
Mar 2019
#58
The only thing we seem to work with Republicans on is big Defense Budgets. Interesting eh?
jalan48
Mar 2019
#64
All signs are that the party is naturally shifting towards the left right now.
jcmaine72
Mar 2019
#73
Unless we take back the Senate and hold the house as well as winning the White House,
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#88