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tulipsandroses

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69. The first thing Trump was tweeting about last night was their immigration/healthcare policies

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:42 PM

Jun 2019

He thinks he can win with that. If he starts framing their policy before they can clarify it- then it becomes a much harder fight.

He tweeted. GAME OVER. Regarding their immigration healthcare policies - while we are so focused on the Biden/Harris debate

I don't think it is. But we can't let him message our message. Like they did with the Mueller report.

Anyone who gets the Nomination has a shot - Trump is a weak president. You are not going to win his core base. But the people who are Trump triers are fair game - I don't think they are going to throw their hands up because of Dems going at it. But we have to be clear in our messaging so they are not confused by things like I might be losing my insurance or losing my job if I vote for a democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Any more debates like last night and Trump will be re-elected. [View all] Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 OP

A voice of sanity!!! Thank you Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #1

Heh. I'm sure a Biden supporter would feel that way. :) Goodheart Jun 2019 #3

That's the truth redstateblues Jun 2019 #4

The DNC needs to pare the field. Goodheart Jun 2019 #2

Absolutely, but its a long race, so everyone should get used to it now Baclava Jun 2019 #15

This is survivor, everyone else gets kicked off the island, not some dinner party debates. LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #77

By all means let's knock off all the Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #83

There's always a "recency" effect during the debates True Dough Jun 2019 #5

Sniping yes Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #6

Again, the recency effect. You're forgetting True Dough Jun 2019 #9

Actually, they stayed fairly civil Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #12

That's a subjective observation, obviously True Dough Jun 2019 #16

Yes but Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #25

I didn't see it that way. MontanaFarmer Jun 2019 #124

no it wasn't. You've got to make your differences clear to the voter floppyboo Jun 2019 #39

The 2008 primary was very tough but Obama went on to win the general. Kaleva Jun 2019 #18

True Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #26

The archived threads from that time period make for interesting reading. Kaleva Jun 2019 #27

It was nasty here Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #36

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #57

"it will difficult for another black to win" crazytown Jun 2019 #58

PUMA... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #78

Which was a small fringe group Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #96

You Think? LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #100

Oh I didn't realize McCain won Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #103

Is this a Horrible Lame Pearled Attempt Snark.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #105

The is in the end the PUMAs didn't matter nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #108

Nasty is subjective DesertRat Jun 2019 #73

I never accused any one person Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #91

Agreed. So far, nothing as nasty as the Dems in 2008 OR the Repubs in 2016 thesquanderer Jun 2019 #10

Very well stated...I can't help but remember karl rove running around like a chicken with his head asiliveandbreathe Jun 2019 #11

Yes, yes and yes!!! floppyboo Jun 2019 #40

We do not have an Obama in the bunch. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #123

Also the winner effect. marylandblue Jun 2019 #19

Only 11 debates to go. Sneederbunk Jun 2019 #7

O.M.G. peggysue2 Jun 2019 #50

Right now - WE MUST UNITE - not fight, WHO in our field is the BEST to beat the pos? asiliveandbreathe Jun 2019 #8

They don't care about winning. They want the full gladiator spectacle. And they want hands-on emmaverybo Jun 2019 #125

It's like folks can't think strategically. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #134

That's right #UniteFightBack it's the only way. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #133

Calls for unity at this stage of the process are pointless Spider Jerusalem Jun 2019 #144

Too bad, That's just how it works Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #13

That's exactly how it's supposed to work sop Jun 2019 #37

Warren would eat Trump alive! I can see the cookbook. Pairie Oysters move over! floppyboo Jun 2019 #43

That's exactly right. Chemisse Jun 2019 #112

Now you don't need that treestar Jun 2019 #193

Oh , ffs, this is tame compared to past primaries. octoberlib Jun 2019 #14

+ 1000 mtnsnake Jun 2019 #17

Exactly Andy823 Jun 2019 #22

Exactly. It's good practice. octoberlib Jun 2019 #24

And any candidate who isn't capable of being meaner and nastier than Trump will get rolled sop Jun 2019 #42

+1001! KPN Jun 2019 #79

Not going to happen with that many people on the stage. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #20

Did you watch the repub debates in 15-16? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #21

Yes but Trump was appealing to Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #28

I am not dumb, but I am mean. I enjoy a smart takedown. marylandblue Jun 2019 #59

Even if it damages the eventual nominee Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #64

No, because if a candidate can be taken down so easily in the primary marylandblue Jun 2019 #75

BS Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #94

It's not an excuse, it's how I picked my candidate, and marylandblue Jun 2019 #109

Well if everyone thought like you Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #113

I don't understand that comment. I didn't say or imply everyone thought like me. marylandblue Jun 2019 #117

Actually you did Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #139

Can you provide a quote where I said that? because I don't see it, marylandblue Jun 2019 #155

If the nominee is already damaged in the primary Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #158

So I didn't say or imply that everyone thinks like me. marylandblue Jun 2019 #161

Stop trying to change the subject Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #164

When the punches get personal and go to a person's character is where the problem lies. And UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #135

Trump is going to do exactly that, just like he attacked the Clinton Foundation marylandblue Jun 2019 #166

That was my immediate thought on reading the OP. KPN Jun 2019 #82

Nonsense BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #23

Different voters Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #30

Doesn't matter. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #31

Actually it does matter Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #35

agree - K&R onetexan Jun 2019 #32

Lol. shanny Jun 2019 #29

New York Post covers empedocles Jun 2019 #33

I disagree. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #34

Sounds like a talking point from the campaign of a candidate who MarcA Jun 2019 #38

Not true. These debates will be mostly forgotten in a week Cousin Dupree Jun 2019 #41

Not on rw media, not before 17 months have passed empedocles Jun 2019 #46

Over time all the negativity will add up treestar Jun 2019 #196

With all due respect... titaniumsalute Jun 2019 #44

Yes because damaging the eventual nominee Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #48

Clearly people aren't getting that Senator Harris got personal there and that is the problem... UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #136

Thanks for getting it Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #145

Busing isn't even an issue now treestar Jun 2019 #195

Can they pare the debates to the top eight? 33taw Jun 2019 #45

FFS - it was the first of 12 Politicub Jun 2019 #47

What do you want them to do sit around and only talk about how bad Trump is? inwiththenew Jun 2019 #49

Better than attacking each other. Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #55

I'd rather they.attack each other. Let the strongest survive. marylandblue Jun 2019 #60

Yeah that worked so well for us in 16 Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #65

When we had like 5 candidates, only 2 of who mattered, and marylandblue Jun 2019 #74

The point is our nominee was damaged Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #93

Our nominee was damaged 30 years and never figured out how to undo the damage. marylandblue Jun 2019 #95

Sounds like Clinton bashing to me nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #97

Yes I know because we can't say anything mildly critical about Hillary or Obama on this site. marylandblue Jun 2019 #116

No kidding. BlueWI Jun 2019 #122

Never said she was perfect but Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #138

The accept the criticism that we would have done better marylandblue Jun 2019 #156

You're feeding a false narrative Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #160

Like I said, Hillary can't even be mildly criticized on this site. marylandblue Jun 2019 #162

Snowflake is a RW term Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #165

What it explains is that, if somebody uses a term to disparage you, own it. marylandblue Jun 2019 #167

It's a RW term Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #168

Did you read what I said about "queer?" marylandblue Jun 2019 #173

Snowflake is a RW term to disbarage Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #175

That's how it started, but some people now use it to suggest marylandblue Jun 2019 #184

Some people?? Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #186

If it goes like this there will be unpalatable candidates that redstateblues Jun 2019 #85

They will attempt to drive up our candidates negatives by any means necessary. marylandblue Jun 2019 #89

Therein lies the madness that will lead to four more years of hell for all the people not emmaverybo Jun 2019 #126

No I don't enjoy the blood sport, but we live at a dangerous time. marylandblue Jun 2019 #131

Will come down to voters in states. As I have said, it will not be primarily a matter of who is a emmaverybo Jun 2019 #132

Yeah well they should not attack each others character and Senator Harris did just that. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #137

She didn't attack his character she said "your words were hurtful," marylandblue Jun 2019 #159

Well golly gee if she was 'hurt' by those purposely misconstrued words than rump is gonna UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #171

I don't think she was actually hurt by those words. I think it was a planned attack, marylandblue Jun 2019 #177

Exactly. Democrats should never disagree or actually debate each other. gtar100 Jun 2019 #51

Please don't mischaracterize what I posted Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #54

Really? That doesn't even work here on DU. marybourg Jun 2019 #87

So you're saying Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #98

I said what I said. marybourg Jun 2019 #102

I'm asking you to clarify what you said Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #104

Dems and the left wing media are giving the gop all Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #52

Nothing happened last night that they didn't already know about. marylandblue Jun 2019 #61

Lol no ValidateThis Jun 2019 #53

K&R n/t Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #56

All the crying about Dems attacking Dems tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #62

Yes Dems attacking work so well for us in 16 Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #66

Not having a clear message worked against us tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #67

Don't disagree with having a clear message Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #68

The first thing Trump was tweeting about last night was their immigration/healthcare policies tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #69

We got to win back the twice a Obama voters Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #71

Still if the nominee is damaged Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #92

+10000 LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #81

Gotta agree for the most part. Morning Joe actually R B Garr Jun 2019 #63

I hope you feel the same way when they start going after Kamala's Record tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #127

Pwning a fellow Democrat is not presidential Generic Brad Jun 2019 #70

I disagree. Blue_true Jun 2019 #72

Should we just let the front runner cruise to victory without first vetting them? gldstwmn Jun 2019 #76

If they are going to snipe at each other they should at least work together to counter... Thomas Hurt Jun 2019 #80

It's a debate... techne7319 Jun 2019 #84

Not the personal attacks Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #101

Personal attacks...? techne7319 Jun 2019 #118

You're denying that there were personal attacks Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #142

It's a campaign... techne7319 Jun 2019 #157

BS Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #163

Not true techne7319 Jun 2019 #169

You're focusing on one incident Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #170

It's the reality techne7319 Jun 2019 #180

It need not be the reality Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #182

Backstabbing? techne7319 Jun 2019 #188

They can do that without Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #189

I propose techne7319 Jun 2019 #190

I agree about the fractured nature of the party Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #192

Dear Trumppcalypse techne7319 Jun 2019 #121

Dear techne7319 Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #143

Oh, I was techne7319 Jun 2019 #151

This was the same attitude Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #152

Compare the Democratic debates to the Repug NoMoreRepugs Jun 2019 #86

The GOP appeals to the dumb and the mean. Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #106

Are we really this fragile? democrank Jun 2019 #88

Yes we are Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #110

Nonsense. This primary is mild compared to some. Autumn Jun 2019 #90

Last night might have hurt Biden in the primary, but it won't have hurt him in the general fishwax Jun 2019 #99

Biden needs to do a whole lot better than he did last night if he is going to survive debates Chemisse Jun 2019 #107

He will NOT be re-elected! That said, I fear these huge debates are counter-productive dawg day Jun 2019 #111

For the thousandth time TheFarseer Jun 2019 #114

He won a Republican primary Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #115

Republicans also appeal to TheFarseer Jun 2019 #120

The 08 primary never got nasty on a personal level Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #141

Never got nasty on a personal level? Are you joking? Kentonio Jun 2019 #153

No nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #154

Did you miss Mark Penn's campaign memo from that time about how they should treat Obama? Kentonio Jun 2019 #172

A internal campaign memo Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #174

How about Hillary's 60 Minutes interview? Kentonio Jun 2019 #179

"As far as I know" LOL Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #181

She didn't say no. Kentonio Jun 2019 #183

How is that non-commital? Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #187

If you think Kamala questioning Biden about his past actions is a 'personal attack' Kentonio Jun 2019 #191

Your accusation is not true Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #194

You should actually read links before posting them Kentonio Jun 2019 #203

And when did Clinton make those accusations from the debate stage Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #204

Those that choose to attack should be the first to go. democratisphere Jun 2019 #119

They should not be rewarded, but some of us want to crown the most cutthroat and least emmaverybo Jun 2019 #128

I believe that type will be identified and weeded out. democratisphere Jun 2019 #129

Leave it to DU to have a few *the sky is falling* posts stopbush Jun 2019 #130

You snark and dry sarcasm good! emmaverybo Jun 2019 #140

The media thrives on conflict Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #146

But at least the criticisms were reality-based. betsuni Jun 2019 #147

No they weren't Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #150

Then, if you think Biden's the only one, he better up his game. pnwmom Jun 2019 #148

Not just Biden Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #149

It's just the process of culling. We have a long way to go before the big game starts. Firestorm49 Jun 2019 #176

It is questionable whether primary debates hurt the candidates karynnj Jun 2019 #178

But why take the risk when so much is at stake Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #185

My point is that it is not clear at all that anything that happened hurt the nominee karynnj Jun 2019 #201

Oh bullshit! I have to get to work, but I read this entire thread in a major effort... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #197

There plenty of attacks on both night Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #200

Are you new? IronLionZion Jun 2019 #198

No republicans like it Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #199

I don't think this is going to stop... Mike Nelson Jun 2019 #202

Shouldn't even be called debates. Prosper Jul 2019 #205