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131. A lot of them may be oK

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 11:04 AM

Jun 2019

And think of it as just a gun safety organization (its original purpose). The motives for joining can be various. I don't see that we have to hate them all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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What the hell is up with Biden and the NRA??? [View all] True Dough Jun 2019 OP

"The members of the NRA are not our opponents." elleng Jun 2019 #1

Thanks for translating for the folks who couldn't understand. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #9

Everyone understands, they just think he's wrong -nt Bradical79 Jun 2019 #11

Maybe he should tweet out that the NRA members are nothing but deplorables. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #15

They mostly are Bradical79 Jun 2019 #28

Yeah well it's really not smart for a candidate to say that. He's defending them? Is he calling UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #30

Pretty much Bradical79 Jun 2019 #32

A lot of them may be oK treestar Jun 2019 #131

My brother in law votes Democratic all the time...and he is a member of the NRA...he is going for Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #49

I think it's too small of a % for that to be a smart move Bradical79 Jul 2019 #133

Yup. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #42

I understand he wants to have it both ways. Hate the sin, love the sinner. Politicub Jun 2019 #86

Actually Ellen Andy823 Jun 2019 #18

I'm familiar with the NRA. elleng Jun 2019 #26

See reply 55 for links to news stories that support what Biden said in that tweet. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #60

Yes, thanks saw that. elleng Jun 2019 #71

NRA members vote too. 20% of NRA members are or lean Democratic. thesquanderer Jun 2019 #78

Exactly. elleng Jun 2019 #81

So never attack any belief?? Brilliant! Nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #122

Not 'belief,' PERSONs, Got it? elleng Jun 2019 #130

There are 5 million NRA members True Dough Jun 2019 #88

Might depend in part on whether they live in MI, WI, or PA (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2019 #115

I'm sure the KKK and other white supremacist groups have members in MI, WI and PA True Dough Jun 2019 #116

Percentage of KKK members who are Dems is probably far less than 20%. ;-) thesquanderer Jun 2019 #118

All right, let's go with that True Dough Jun 2019 #119

I don't know that it was a good idea. I'm just saying there is some possible reasonable rationale. thesquanderer Jun 2019 #123

Good post. We're in agreement here True Dough Jun 2019 #124

And Pete is my second choice after Warren. ;-) thesquanderer Jun 2019 #125

The members do not decide policy. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #101

There's a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #117

WTF??? AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #2

The LaPierre NRA doesn't eat venison. Mopar151 Jun 2019 #12

This pretty much seals the deal. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #34

See reply 55 for links to news stories that support what Biden tweeted there. It's been highplainsdem Jun 2019 #62

I think you might be wasting your time.... quickesst Jun 2019 #110

he has supporters among conservative types JI7 Jun 2019 #3

who vote in dem primary? AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #5

yes JI7 Jun 2019 #7

In a little less than half the states anyway n/t FreeState Jun 2019 #13

if he can keep most or a decent number if black voters JI7 Jun 2019 #16

But not if he loses Dems who disagree n/t FreeState Jun 2019 #29

that would be the black voters I'm referring to JI7 Jun 2019 #33

People don't care about silly stuff like winning swing states. That's not really important. UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #31

That is the plan to limp through the primary undamaged by attacks from the left as much as possible Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #50

Maybe. But more importantly, who vote in the general and live in WI, MI, and PA. thesquanderer Jun 2019 #77

There are plenty of gun-owning Democrats out there secondwind Jun 2019 #4

I know many of them, none of them support NRA in any way AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #6

I know a lot of them also Andy823 Jun 2019 #19

just because you are a gun owner doesn't mean you support nra AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #24

True Andy823 Jun 2019 #35

I'm sure there are True Dough Jun 2019 #8

Kamala Harris said she has a gun. i actually think that might have turned JI7 Jun 2019 #17

gun ownership is not equal to supporting nra or being nra member AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #38

i know, but a lot of liberal leaning people are just turned off by it JI7 Jun 2019 #40

Because they are a money laundering front gldstwmn Jun 2019 #43

Turned off just because she owns a gun? marylandblue Jun 2019 #132

I think even more people turned away because she campaigns on MFA. ooky Jun 2019 #48

About 19% last I'd seen Bradical79 Jul 2019 #134

He is laying out strategy for the gun jumpers to not attack him kimbutgar Jun 2019 #10

As best I know, his statement is accurate. Blue_true Jun 2019 #14

We need more than background checks. nt Andy823 Jun 2019 #21

Unless we redefine the Second Amendment, background checks likely Blue_true Jun 2019 #100

are they ok banning assault weapons? AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #39

I don't know. But polls of that organization's members showed they Blue_true Jun 2019 #103

It is. See reply 55 for links to news stories. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #64

Joe is trying to dial back the NRA to when it was a conservation and sportsman's advocacy group. NBachers Jun 2019 #20

That was some time ago Andy823 Jun 2019 #22

You think his comments have that much power? True Dough Jun 2019 #23

He's running a 2000 campaign in 2020. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #44

No, Biden is just stating what's been reported for years by pollsters and mainstream media, as highplainsdem Jun 2019 #65

If you belong to an evil organization - and the the NRA is evil - 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #25

NRA and gun manufacturers/profiteers are synonymous. Manufacturers are main funding source. Hoyt Jun 2019 #27

You and bean cans... AncientGeezer Jun 2019 #102

I knew it was you, OldGeezer. How are the gun-humpers on Discussionist doing? Hoyt Jun 2019 #104

Locking doors so the cops can't get in..or bean cans... AncientGeezer Jun 2019 #105

Fine do. Although I'm sure you'd rather get back under the Discussionist rock. Hoyt Jun 2019 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Jun 2019 #107

This is politics - He is courting the Gun Humpers- Its Strategy tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #36

If the Democratic nominee customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #37

How about some middle ground? True Dough Jun 2019 #41

That sounds reasonable and doable customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #56

Attack full force? How about just not support gldstwmn Jun 2019 #45

The reality is customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #58

This is 20th century campaign strategy in gldstwmn Jun 2019 #93

Where in that post did I say anything about attacking gun owners? tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #47

Well, to me customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #59

Exactly.. AncientGeezer Jun 2019 #84

Yep. Working both sides of the street, he's already running against Trump. ooky Jun 2019 #51

Is Joe after the NRA vote? zackymilly Jun 2019 #46

Yes MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #52

I hope so...some live in states we need...do you thiink Harris could win in those states...states Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #53

Which states specifically? Obama won those states. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #94

Hillary lost them...and that was pre-tea party days....very different...if Trump wins Wisconsin, Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #99

See reply 55 for links to news stories about most NRA members supporting some reforms. The majority highplainsdem Jun 2019 #66

Why give your money and time to an organization you don't agree with? gldstwmn Jun 2019 #95

There is no good answer to your question True Dough Jun 2019 #111

So much for the rejection of special interests loyalsister Jun 2019 #97

Joe hopes and expects to run in the general MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #54

Biden's absolutely correct that the vast majority of NRA members support common-sense reforms. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #55

First link of yours I clicked True Dough Jun 2019 #61

If you'd bothered to read past the headline, you'd have read that the vast majorrity of NRA members highplainsdem Jun 2019 #63

Just last year, True Dough Jun 2019 #69

Biden differentiated NRA members, the majority of them, from the leadership. Just as those surveys highplainsdem Jun 2019 #70

Are you so forgiving of Trump supporters? True Dough Jun 2019 #72

The majority of the NRA's membership has gldstwmn Jun 2019 #96

Agreed Bayard Jun 2019 #126

He could have targeted sensible gun owners without invoking the NRA. People who self-identify Politicub Jun 2019 #90

And yet their membership dues support an organisation that fights proposed gun control laws Kaleva Jun 2019 #92

lol The members of the NRA are not our opponents ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #57

Yes. That statement is so absurd it is LOL worthy. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #98

Pete : "But gun manufactures fund the NRA" crazytown Jun 2019 #67

Yes! I caught that too. True Dough Jun 2019 #68

This is disqualifying. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #73

It's like he's forgotten or doesn't know what the NRA is and what the NRA does. Autumn Jun 2019 #74

Hi Autumn! True Dough Jun 2019 #75

I'm not undecided. I like a few of them I just refuse to state. nt Autumn Jun 2019 #76

Are you planning to True Dough Jun 2019 #79

Just one. The one who says and does what I'm waiting for. Autumn Jun 2019 #80

Sounds like the candidates just need to spend True Dough Jun 2019 #82

Nope, It's early and I'll wait. Autumn Jun 2019 #83

Take a look at their publications. They are our opponents. The NRA is a republican-supporting group. Politicub Jun 2019 #85

Excellent post! True Dough Jun 2019 #87

Thank you. Politicub Jun 2019 #89

yes, this whole 'NRA MEMBERS' are separate from the org is pure rot Celerity Jun 2019 #91

You bring greater depth to every thread, Celerity! True Dough Jun 2019 #112

aaww, TY, you are making me blush, and I do nothing special at all Celerity Jun 2019 #113

Piss off firearm owners...that will be a winning deal for us. Never. AncientGeezer Jun 2019 #108

Gun owners are not necessarily NRA members. I don't take issue with Politicub Jun 2019 #114

Either the NRA is an undemocratic organization or the "vast majority" MarcA Jun 2019 #109

Biden had an F rating from the NRA as Senator Curky Jun 2019 #120

Congratulations to Mr. Biden! True Dough Jun 2019 #121

Judging by the OP, you would think he got an A Curky Jun 2019 #128

Yeah, rather curious isn't it? True Dough Jun 2019 #129

Right again. snowybirdie Jun 2019 #127