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Celerity

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17. actually they were not, the 538/MC debate poll showed Biden losing 10 points and Harris gaining 10
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jul 2019

(from her numbers after the first debate) for net gain of plus on Joe for Kamala 20 points.

In this CNN poll Biden lost 10 points, and she gained 9, for a net gain of plus 19.

The big difference is that Biden started out higher in the 538/MC debate poll

The regular Morning Consult regualr daily tracking poll (NOT the special collab with 538 pre and post debate one) has always been an outlier for the national polls in terms of giving Biden a higher vote share


the CNN poll today

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/07/01/rel8a.-.democrats.and.healthcare.pd




The 538/Morning Consult pre and post debate poll

https://time.com/5617826/primary-debate-biden-harris-poll-slips-10/

The first Democratic primary debates appear to have cost Vice President Joe Biden some of his supporters – at least for now, one poll suggests.

Polling by Morning Consult and FiveThirtyEight before and after the two debates on Wednesday and Thursday suggests that support for Biden dropped by about 10 points among likely Democratic voters, when asked who they would choose if the election were held tomorrow.

Biden had previously enjoyed a healthy lead over the other Democrats. The polling prior to debates, which was conducted between June 19 and 26, suggested that Biden was supported by about 41.5% of voters. At that point, the polling showed Sen. Elizabeth Warren had the support of 12.6% of voters and Bernie Sanders had 14.4% of support. Biden appears to have slipped in the polls after each debate, his support falling to 35.4% after the first debate and to 31.5% after the second round.

Post-debate analyses suggest that Sen. Kamala Harris’ strong debate performance – coupled with her willingness directly attack Biden, including his civil rights record – posed a challenge for the former Vice President. In one of the most heated moments of the debate, Harris drew attention to Biden’s previous opposition to busing as a tool to promote school integration.

The poll also showed Harris gaining a significant number of supporters. While she had the support of just 7.9% of likely voters before the debate, (my add, she had 6.3% after the first debate) she had 16.6% of the the support afterwards. Other candidates appeared to experience smaller gains and losses, according to the poll. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ support rose from 14.4% to 17.3% after the second debate; Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s support grew from 12.6% to 14.4%.

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-poll/





If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Good. I am tired of seeing a certain VT Senator who can't win in second place. riverine Jul 2019 #1
Sanders will fade quickly, but he will sadly stay in the race as long as the $ holds out. stopbush Jul 2019 #2
If Warren becomes the presumptive nominee, Sanders may stand down quickly. marylandblue Jul 2019 #4
I would NOT lay wager on that, the NON DU Berner crowd hates Warren (along with all others Celerity Jul 2019 #11
Damn, I was hoping their would be less of them this time around. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #12
There are fewer of them. Blue_true Jul 2019 #37
You are right,.there will be some hardcore holdouts, but marylandblue Jul 2019 #13
if Warren is the nominee then Bernie can stop probably 80% of the hardcore Berners Celerity Jul 2019 #15
Indisputable Anecdotal Proof based on Limited Personal Interactions bluewater Jul 2019 #16
the ones I know personally are more likely to vote for our winner than defect Celerity Jul 2019 #21
The ones I know won't vote for POTUS if Sanders isn't the nominee. stopbush Jul 2019 #23
2016 Sanders supporters versus 2020 Sanders supporters Celerity Jul 2019 #25
I agree about the Jill Stein voters democrattotheend Jul 2019 #28
Here's the thing... bluewater Jul 2019 #34
here is a reply I just did when someone ask me about Bernie hardcore people and Warren Celerity Jul 2019 #36
You should turn this into an OP. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #38
They "hate" Warren? Seems odd given how close her policies whathehell Jul 2019 #26
no, they think she is a DNC stalking horse, that at the end of the day she will sell out and not Celerity Jul 2019 #35
The "Bernie bros" are notoriously sexist... whathehell Jul 2019 #39
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2019 #3
Bernie is declining significantly Curky Jul 2019 #5
Nope. There Will Be A Moderate. riverine Jul 2019 #6
Klobuchar doesn't stand a chance. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #7
I agree. n/t. whathehell Jul 2019 #27
These polls are all so wildly divergent.... dawg day Jul 2019 #8
No, the other poll was about a different question tishaLA Jul 2019 #10
all you say is correct, except the cherry picked number from that other OP was from the same poll Celerity Jul 2019 #19
actually they were not, the 538/MC debate poll showed Biden losing 10 points and Harris gaining 10 Celerity Jul 2019 #17
Same here democrattotheend Jul 2019 #30
Really great results for Sens Harris and Warren tishaLA Jul 2019 #9
I didn't think Castro did that well. He got too far into the weeds on "Section 1325." marylandblue Jul 2019 #14
Yes, it was way too wonkish customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #20
At this point customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #18
Going after Biden paid off Trenzalore Jul 2019 #22
unfortunately taking down biden is the only way for other candidates to win AlexSFCA Jul 2019 #33
My favorite part of this poll is Sanders sinking to 4th place! honest.abe Jul 2019 #24
RCP NATIONAL POLL Average has Warren 13.4, Harris 10 at140 Jul 2019 #29
Warren and Harris are the only two trending upwards in the past week. Kaleva Jul 2019 #31
Debate performances, no doubt...nt at140 Jul 2019 #32
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