Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: New CNN Poll: Biden 22%; Harris 17% [View all]Celerity
(54,951 posts)(from her numbers after the first debate) for net gain of plus on Joe for Kamala 20 points.
In this CNN poll Biden lost 10 points, and she gained 9, for a net gain of plus 19.
The big difference is that Biden started out higher in the 538/MC debate poll
The regular Morning Consult regualr daily tracking poll (NOT the special collab with 538 pre and post debate one) has always been an outlier for the national polls in terms of giving Biden a higher vote share
the CNN poll today
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/07/01/rel8a.-.democrats.and.healthcare.pd

The 538/Morning Consult pre and post debate poll
https://time.com/5617826/primary-debate-biden-harris-poll-slips-10/
The first Democratic primary debates appear to have cost Vice President Joe Biden some of his supporters at least for now, one poll suggests.
Polling by Morning Consult and FiveThirtyEight before and after the two debates on Wednesday and Thursday suggests that support for Biden dropped by about 10 points among likely Democratic voters, when asked who they would choose if the election were held tomorrow.
Biden had previously enjoyed a healthy lead over the other Democrats. The polling prior to debates, which was conducted between June 19 and 26, suggested that Biden was supported by about 41.5% of voters. At that point, the polling showed Sen. Elizabeth Warren had the support of 12.6% of voters and Bernie Sanders had 14.4% of support. Biden appears to have slipped in the polls after each debate, his support falling to 35.4% after the first debate and to 31.5% after the second round.
Post-debate analyses suggest that Sen. Kamala Harris strong debate performance coupled with her willingness directly attack Biden, including his civil rights record posed a challenge for the former Vice President. In one of the most heated moments of the debate, Harris drew attention to Bidens previous opposition to busing as a tool to promote school integration.
The poll also showed Harris gaining a significant number of supporters. While she had the support of just 7.9% of likely voters before the debate, (my add, she had 6.3% after the first debate) she had 16.6% of the the support afterwards. Other candidates appeared to experience smaller gains and losses, according to the poll. Sen. Bernie Sanders support rose from 14.4% to 17.3% after the second debate; Sen. Elizabeth Warrens support grew from 12.6% to 14.4%.
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-poll/


primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden