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wyldwolf

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47. Washington State has a decidely mixed voting and polling record on gay rights and Seattle has...
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 07:40 PM
Jul 2019

... over 200 reported gay hate crimes since 2014 (or bias crimes as they're called)

Even if we say, for the sake of argument, that Seattle is an oasis of gay tolerance, you can see a history of Washington state polling on gay marriage spanning about 8 years and how it become more accepted with each passing year:

A May 2011 Public Policy Polling survey found that 46% of Washington voters thought that same-sex marriage should be legal, while 44% thought it should be illegal and 10% were not sure.

An October 2011 University of Washington poll found that 55% of Washington voters would vote to uphold a legislatively approved same-sex marriage bill if it were put to a referendum, while 38% would oppose it and 7% were undecided. A separate question on the same survey found that 43% of respondents thought that gay and lesbian couples should have the same right to marry as straight couples, 22% thought that gay and lesbian couples should have the same rights as straight couples without the word "marriage," 15% thought that gay and lesbian couples should have domestic partnerships with only some of the rights of marriage, 17% opposed all legal recognition, and 3% didn't know.

A February 2012 survey by Public Policy Polling found that 50% of Washington voters would vote to uphold a law which would legalize same-sex marriage, while 46% would vote to repeal it and 4% were not sure. In addition, 32% believed that same-sex couples should be allowed to enter civil unions but not marriage and 20% were opposed to all legal recognition of same-sex relationships.

A June 2012 survey by Public Policy Polling found that 51% of Washington voters thought that same-sex marriage should be legal, while 42% thought it should be illegal and 7% were not sure.

A November 2012 survey by Public Policy Polling found that 54% of Washington voters thought that same-sex marriage should be legal, while 40% thought it should be illegal and 5% were not sure.

A May 2015 survey by Public Policy Polling found that 56% of Washington voters thought that same-sex marriage should be legal, while 36% thought it should be illegal and 8% were not sure.

A 2016 Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) poll found that 64% of Washington residents supported same-sex marriage, while 26% were opposed and 10% were unsure or undecided. In 2017, the PRRI found that 73% of Washingtonians supported same-sex marriage, while 21% were opposed and 6% were unsure.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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There has been a backlash.. as there always is.. Peacetrain Jul 2019 #1
He wasn't correct when he suggested this had been true in Seattle 5 years ago. pnwmom Jul 2019 #2
Everywhere wyldwolf Jul 2019 #3
Seattle is one of the most gay positive cities in the US. I don't know anyone who wouldn't pnwmom Jul 2019 #5
that's beside the point wyldwolf Jul 2019 #7
This is the context. He was talking about a business meeting in Seattle. pnwmom Jul 2019 #8
I've read the context and several accounts wyldwolf Jul 2019 #10
Most business meetings on any given day in Seattle aren't conventions. And most people attending pnwmom Jul 2019 #14
But, again, there isn't a shred of evidence to back your claims wyldwolf Jul 2019 #20
Biden didn't have a shred of evidence to back his story. So we're even. pnwmom Jul 2019 #32
My op quotes studies that confirm the rapid acceptance of gay rights. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #35
Seattle is the most liberal part of the state. For example, only 8% of Seattle's votes went to Trump pnwmom Jul 2019 #37
do elections and voting on referendums, for example, ride on Seattle? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #39
We have a division between the eastern and western part of the state. Until Gov. Inslee we were pnwmom Jul 2019 #44
Washington State has a decidely mixed voting and polling record on gay rights and Seattle has... wyldwolf Jul 2019 #47
So? Every report of his comment said he was in Seattle talking about a business meeting in the city. pnwmom Jul 2019 #51
Not the link you gave wyldwolf Jul 2019 #53
You left out the CNN piece's second paragraph where the reporter quoted from the pooled report. pnwmom Jul 2019 #55
So I did. One paragraph says "washington state" and the next says "Seattle," wyldwolf Jul 2019 #58
The issue wasn't whether gay crimes ever occur. pnwmom Jul 2019 #60
... five years ago... wyldwolf Jul 2019 #62
That's NOT obvious. Seattle voted for marriage equality by very high margins in 2012. pnwmom Jul 2019 #64
I only see numbers on Washington State. You have them broken down by city? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #66
I told you -- King County approved it by 67%. Seattle is less than half of the county, pnwmom Jul 2019 #67
which means 33% - a third of King county voters - disapproved? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #68
It means if they go to Seattle and mock a gay waiter, they can expect a Seattle person to speak out. pnwmom Jul 2019 #69
You're certain that with a margin of those percentages, someone at a business meeting or... wyldwolf Jul 2019 #70
Biden seems certain that would be true NOW. I'm certain that it would have been just as true pnwmom Jul 2019 #71
yet 33%... wyldwolf Jul 2019 #72
Of the COUNTY. I keep telling you, Seattle is much more liberal than the overall county. pnwmom Jul 2019 #73
You are correct about Seattle. betsuni Jul 2019 #30
I don't think anyone would dispute this...in fact Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #4
Now the issue was he'd told the story before? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #6
Not necessarily my issue... Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #9
I've seen the same speeches given by politicians numerous times wyldwolf Jul 2019 #12
But that's John Lewis's story to tell... Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #43
The issue is that he could have made his point clearer and less disputable marylandblue Jul 2019 #23
He was only pointing out social attitudes have changed as to what is less acceptable or more emmaverybo Jul 2019 #48
In 2014, his story was that it was common to hear such jokes in 1999 More_Cowbell Jul 2019 #11
He was correct then, too. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #16
Yes, exactly. He really should stop telling stories at all. marylandblue Jul 2019 #26
Joe Biden had a pivotal role in the fight for marriage equality, LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #13
Whatever you call it, he can't afford to do it at the Presidential level. marylandblue Jul 2019 #28
Oh, I agree. He's not the best candidate, not by a long shot. LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #38
Oh puleeze. Trump's people will defeat him on the basis of his allusions being out of date? NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #50
They will beat him on the basis of making the campaign one long distraction about nothing. marylandblue Jul 2019 #56
Fair enough. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #63
... shanny Jul 2019 #15
Well, a poster at DailyKos quoting someone using "whitey" has spoken. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #17
lame shanny Jul 2019 #19
yeah, you quoting someone using the term "whitey" was lame wyldwolf Jul 2019 #21
(shrug) shanny Jul 2019 #25
Maybe. Maybe not. But using an anonymous opinion to bolster yours? Lame. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #29
So. "anonymous" is your problem? What's your name, wyld? shanny Jul 2019 #31
Anonymous isn't my problem. The fact you'd think a dailykos diarist has any more credibility... wyldwolf Jul 2019 #45
lol dude. "Kos" is not some random anonymous diarist shanny Jul 2019 #49
Maybe he thought it was well written opinion on it's merits? marylandblue Jul 2019 #41
Whitey? tonedevil Jul 2019 #27
Do cite the "whitey" quote please. Inquiring minds. shanny Jul 2019 #34
Harris has already lost 5 of the 8 pts she gained post debate Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #18
in the same poll? or some other poll? shanny Jul 2019 #24
When this acceptable? melman Jul 2019 #22
Never ever. bluewater Jul 2019 #33
A "lisp?" Using that stereotype saddens me about Joe. cwydro Jul 2019 #57
For those who think that homophobia is a long-past issue, tell that to the 49 victims of the Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #36
The never biden people won't stop. FloridaBlues Jul 2019 #40
but a homophobic hate crime could NEEEVER happen in Seattle. Could it? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #42
It is almost impossible for something to matter less than this. Loki Liesmith Jul 2019 #46
THIS. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #52
What matters is knowing not to step in mine fields. Guess some have it and some don't. brush Jul 2019 #61
Plenty of gay hate right this very day, never mind 5 years ago. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #54
Black and LGBT people are more than twice as likely as any other group to be targets of hate crimes Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #59
Exactly wyldwolf Jul 2019 #65
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