Democratic Primaries

bluewater

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34. Here's the thing...

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 10:52 PM

Jul 2019

First, thanks for a detailed analysis about the defection rate of Sanders' supporters from the Democratic Party's candidate.

Second, you make a very strong argument that the number of disaffected Sanders' supporters is non-trivial and should be a real concern.

So the question is, what's to be done about it?

My belief, based on the Sanders' supporters I know, is that an economic progressive must be on the Democratic 2020 ticket to mitigate the defection rate of disaffected Sanders' people. That means Warren or Sanders as president or VP.

If Joe Biden is the nominee, the defection problem, which you so exhaustively and accurately demonstrated as being a real issue, will simply explode and become enormous. Biden is the worse possible candidate to keep the Sanders' people in the Democratic fold, in my considered opinion.

So, would you have any data on which potential candidates mitigate or exacerbate the problem the most?

I gave my opinion, but that's not based on the level of detailed analysis you showed in your previous post.

Thanks for all your hard work. That was an awesome post.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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New CNN Poll: Biden 22%; Harris 17% [View all] stopbush Jul 2019 OP

Good. I am tired of seeing a certain VT Senator who can't win in second place. riverine Jul 2019 #1

Sanders will fade quickly, but he will sadly stay in the race as long as the $ holds out. stopbush Jul 2019 #2

If Warren becomes the presumptive nominee, Sanders may stand down quickly. marylandblue Jul 2019 #4

I would NOT lay wager on that, the NON DU Berner crowd hates Warren (along with all others Celerity Jul 2019 #11

Damn, I was hoping their would be less of them this time around. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #12

There are fewer of them. Blue_true Jul 2019 #37

You are right,.there will be some hardcore holdouts, but marylandblue Jul 2019 #13

if Warren is the nominee then Bernie can stop probably 80% of the hardcore Berners Celerity Jul 2019 #15

Indisputable Anecdotal Proof based on Limited Personal Interactions bluewater Jul 2019 #16

the ones I know personally are more likely to vote for our winner than defect Celerity Jul 2019 #21

The ones I know won't vote for POTUS if Sanders isn't the nominee. stopbush Jul 2019 #23

2016 Sanders supporters versus 2020 Sanders supporters Celerity Jul 2019 #25

I agree about the Jill Stein voters democrattotheend Jul 2019 #28

Here's the thing... bluewater Jul 2019 #34

here is a reply I just did when someone ask me about Bernie hardcore people and Warren Celerity Jul 2019 #36

You should turn this into an OP. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #38

They "hate" Warren? Seems odd given how close her policies whathehell Jul 2019 #26

no, they think she is a DNC stalking horse, that at the end of the day she will sell out and not Celerity Jul 2019 #35

The "Bernie bros" are notoriously sexist... whathehell Jul 2019 #39

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2019 #3

Bernie is declining significantly Curky Jul 2019 #5

Nope. There Will Be A Moderate. riverine Jul 2019 #6

Klobuchar doesn't stand a chance. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #7

I agree. n/t. whathehell Jul 2019 #27

These polls are all so wildly divergent.... dawg day Jul 2019 #8

No, the other poll was about a different question tishaLA Jul 2019 #10

all you say is correct, except the cherry picked number from that other OP was from the same poll Celerity Jul 2019 #19

actually they were not, the 538/MC debate poll showed Biden losing 10 points and Harris gaining 10 Celerity Jul 2019 #17

Same here democrattotheend Jul 2019 #30

Really great results for Sens Harris and Warren tishaLA Jul 2019 #9

I didn't think Castro did that well. He got too far into the weeds on "Section 1325." marylandblue Jul 2019 #14

Yes, it was way too wonkish customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #20

At this point customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #18

Going after Biden paid off Trenzalore Jul 2019 #22

unfortunately taking down biden is the only way for other candidates to win AlexSFCA Jul 2019 #33

My favorite part of this poll is Sanders sinking to 4th place! honest.abe Jul 2019 #24

RCP NATIONAL POLL Average has Warren 13.4, Harris 10 at140 Jul 2019 #29

Warren and Harris are the only two trending upwards in the past week. Kaleva Jul 2019 #31

Debate performances, no doubt...nt at140 Jul 2019 #32