New CNN Poll: Biden 22%; Harris 17%

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35. no, they think she is a DNC stalking horse, that at the end of the day she will sell out and not

really do any of the things their Bernie would do. Many buy into the ridiculous postulation that she is some slash and burn Rethug wolf in sheep's clothing.

The really hardcore Berners (NOT DU) are a cult. Many are actually compromised Trotskyites (the REALLY hardcore Trots I know hate Bernie, lolol) or actual democratic socialists (Bernie stupidly calls himself that even though he isn't, which fucks us all by giving the Rethugs a self-inflicted fake, false COMMIE!! target on our backs for them to shoot at) who will hold their purity noses and vote for him in the primary but will deffo bounce out (look at my giant post in this thread) in the general when he is not on the ticket.

MANY want Bernie to play full spoiler and destroy our party. Gain through pain. They think the only way to defeat the neoliberals and 'bankster whores/corporate shills' (THEIR WORDS NOT MINE) and kill off their grip is to make it impossible to ever win with a candidate to the right of BERNIE.

Then you have just the radical chic poseurs. Those are people around my age (I am 23) so say 16 to 31 now, who are not active online really, but are just playing plazzy radical for shits and giggles. I know a few of those in RL. I have switched some to Pete, BUT the Berners have pulled a few back into the cult.

Sure, I would love to have single payer, basically almsot free healthcare, and free uni tuition here in the US. (I have had and can have that anytime, as I am a dual UK/US citizen and also have right to remain (soon citizenship) in a Nordic nation as well)

But, for the US, it isnt going to happen for a long time, if ever. The country is too pushed and captured and artificially (gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc) forced into a RW electoral landscape and zeitgeist. Half our caucus are moderates from purple, pink and red districts, who will block all that, out of fear of losing their seats. I fully predict a public option is not going to pass, even if we hold the House and retake the Senate, plus win POTUS. Problem Solvers, some of the Blue Dogs, and some of the New Democrat Coalition will never vote for the public option. Plus the lobbyist groups who killed it last time will do so again.

I am cynical ad realistic, lolol.

If Rump wins re-election and we fail to retake the Senate, we are probably out of Los Angeles and back to the EU (I am there now, its almost 5 03 in morning, lol) if not for good then at least a long, long time. The SCOTUS will probably end up 7-2 or even 8-1 (Sotomayor has bad, bad diabetes) HARD RW, and like hell if we wait around to have out marriage de-legalised (lesbian). It would be back to London for sure, where we both grew up, but fuck me sideways, BREXIT, grrrrrrrrrr (Can I have any worse luck for my two nations, sheesh, first Rump and now soon that floppy-haired tw%¤ Boris as PM)