Democratic Primaries

R B Garr

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149. Prosecutors put people in jail.

Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:13 PM

Jul 2019

Public defenders keep them out.

Each case has their own circumstances, of course.

What’s meaningless is to personalize this. It was a simple contrast in a debate, and it was very effective. The implication was also that Biden knew of some cases to use against Harris, but he declined.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Joe Biden Says He Won't Use Dem Opponents' Past Against Them: [View all] Kahuna7 Jul 2019 OP

Is that politician-speak for "Stop talking about my record" ? bluewater Jul 2019 #1

sure sounds like it... pangaia Jul 2019 #5

Well, the poster Got it Wrong... Cha Jul 2019 #221

. George II Jul 2019 #6

... Zambero Jul 2019 #43

Double smack onetexan Jul 2019 #77

IKR? Cary Jul 2019 #131

Yes, he knows the other front runners don't have a political career that goes Autumn Jul 2019 #9

Exactly. They all lack experience. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #226

Exactly. He can't go back 30 or 40 years because most of them were what..like 15? Autumn Jul 2019 #228

Yes not enough experience. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #229

Yes not even in politics yet. So basicly promising he won't do something he can't do. Autumn Jul 2019 #234

You say potato, I say 🤷🏼‍♀️ LakeArenal Jul 2019 #239

Yes. A trifle convenient, no? stopbush Jul 2019 #10

Yes ONE example Andy823 Jul 2019 #68

But none from Biden. Butterflylady Jul 2019 #100

Yep mcar Jul 2019 #120

Oh please!! Why don't you post something + about your candidate. Biden is being a fair player Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #124

lol, he could have easily walloped Harris right back. R B Garr Jul 2019 #16

He was a public defender for a few months, till he got another law firm job. Demit Jul 2019 #73

So what, she was never a public defender. R B Garr Jul 2019 #76

I'd love to know his record as a public defender. Since he brought it up. Demit Jul 2019 #83

Public defender vs prosecutor. That is the immediate contrast. R B Garr Jul 2019 #85

Public defender: a job Biden held so briefly you never heard about it before this. Demit Jul 2019 #92

Why wasn't Harris a public defender? R B Garr Jul 2019 #95

She ran for the Office no less....she sought it AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #103

lol, just a quick headline shows she fought public defenders... R B Garr Jul 2019 #107

Is it your contention... tonedevil Jul 2019 #108

It's a simple contrast. R B Garr Jul 2019 #111

You don't actually know their desires. tonedevil Jul 2019 #127

You were asking about me. How laughable that you R B Garr Jul 2019 #134

Wanting to be a Prosecutor... tonedevil Jul 2019 #143

Prosecutors put people in jail. R B Garr Jul 2019 #149

OK /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #153

Harris was an ADA in the District Attorney's office for years before running for the top job. Demit Jul 2019 #165

Busing is a useless issue to voters . 40 year old issues R B Garr Jul 2019 #166

If Biden did any good as a public defender I'd love to hear it. I'm all ears. Demit Jul 2019 #176

How utterly inane to distract with fabrications about R B Garr Jul 2019 #196

I didn't fabricate anything, nor did I say that he surely didn't do a good job. Demit Jul 2019 #202

You are completely distracting with your own fabrications. R B Garr Jul 2019 #206

Sen. Harris ran for the D.A.'s office....she sought it. An elected position. AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #106

Oh, yes, I thought you were saying she wanted to be a R B Garr Jul 2019 #113

Believe it or not. It is a lot harder to get a job as a prosecutor than it is as a public defender. Blue_true Jul 2019 #203

That wasn't the point. It's not about which job is harder R B Garr Jul 2019 #204

But Biden parried back at Harris by pointing out that he was a public defender Blue_true Jul 2019 #212

Your fabrications are not part of the discussion, R B Garr Jul 2019 #214

She was a prosecutor??!! mcar Jul 2019 #121

Bazinga! Let's throw out our entire Criminal Justice system! Viva la Revolution! bluewater Jul 2019 #160

Yeah, lock em up! U betcha R B Garr Jul 2019 #161

Those who truly deserve it? mcar Jul 2019 #179

How could he play the big bad wolf to her "little girl?" She does have baggage, but he won't be emmaverybo Jul 2019 #230

'Zactly. shanny Jul 2019 #17

I think he's saying he won't talk about his opponents' pasts... Politicub Jul 2019 #33

Pretty much loyalsister Jul 2019 #41

lol you think an x republican has no record ? stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #56

She freely talks about it. progressoid Jul 2019 #89

I know in the 80's how bad republican were ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #93

No, it's politician speak for 'I Won't Lie About Other Democrats' emulatorloo Jul 2019 #63

.. Cha Jul 2019 #191

Or mischaracterize purposefully. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #227

Yup. I... zentrum Jul 2019 #87

That is such a stretch!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #128

No, it's called integrity. Butterflylady Jul 2019 #98

Bingo!! Good luck with that Joe!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #118

He doesn't want to go through this again... progressoid Jul 2019 #126

That's actually Biden's style but I wouldn't Cha Jul 2019 #190

I am willing to give him a break on past mistakes if he can explain how Blue_true Jul 2019 #201

NO.. you got it Wrong Again about Joe Biden.. Cha Jul 2019 #220

He has been guided by integrity and principal in his dealing with friends and rivals alike his emmaverybo Jul 2019 #231

His civil rights record is stronger because... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #236

OMG. You are right! NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #238

I honestly don't think our candidates should be referred to derisively as "politicians." gulliver Jul 2019 #244

That's what I'd infer if the candidate I supported was getting spanked... LanternWaste Jul 2019 #248

A veiled threat there...he won't do it but others might. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #2

One of the reasons many of us love him is that we don't even need to consider having him..... SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #3

The one who bragged that he was the FIRST to sign it was the first to break it. George II Jul 2019 #7

Truth! OhZone Jul 2019 #44

He did sign it, of course. namahage Jul 2019 #62

No brainer for him. We know that. NT SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #114

Joe Biden: "I want all the advantages of 45 years in politics, but none of the associated baggage." True Dough Jul 2019 #4

So is Mayor Pete's, and proportionally he now has a lot more baggage than Biden does. George II Jul 2019 #12

And another major difference is that Pete is taking complete ownership True Dough Jul 2019 #14

Sorry, I disagree on both points. George II Jul 2019 #20

It's a discussion forum True Dough Jul 2019 #24

It's not baggage to tell black voters to their faces that he's R B Garr Jul 2019 #21

Of course those things happen True Dough Jul 2019 #25

Or some can exploit it, twist it, and rub it in, fully knowing R B Garr Jul 2019 #27

Life is full of those types True Dough Jul 2019 #32

So talking about things that are deliberately taken R B Garr Jul 2019 #52

I've seen plenty of disagreement from longstanding members of this forum True Dough Jul 2019 #57

What's interesting is that Harris is now pleading for R B Garr Jul 2019 #60

Harris only had a moment on the debate stage to put Joe on the spot True Dough Jul 2019 #65

Flat out wrong according to her campaign. She planned it R B Garr Jul 2019 #72

Read more carefully True Dough Jul 2019 #74

She had many moments. I saw her speaking for awhile. R B Garr Jul 2019 #78

When you accuse someone of spreading misinformation True Dough Jul 2019 #81

Harris fully planned her attack and had plenty of time R B Garr Jul 2019 #84

"...and had plenty of time to deliver it." True Dough Jul 2019 #88

LOL, that is after the debate. She made comments R B Garr Jul 2019 #90

"After a heated Twitter exchange between the Biden and Harris campaigns True Dough Jul 2019 #96

She has been challenged on her new input, and wanted to make R B Garr Jul 2019 #97

Axelrod was a key player in Obama's campaign True Dough Jul 2019 #112

Well, in this particular exchange, he is vindicated by the R B Garr Jul 2019 #117

There are several more debates to come True Dough Jul 2019 #119

I don't think a 40-year old issue that is not on people's R B Garr Jul 2019 #129

There's a wealth of outstanding Dem candidates True Dough Jul 2019 #136

If they are so outstanding, then no need to bring up 40-year R B Garr Jul 2019 #152

It all can be done: discussing the past, present and future True Dough Jul 2019 #157

And then there's the Obama years. VP to a wildly popular R B Garr Jul 2019 #159

Well, since you're changing the subject Kirsten Gillibrand True Dough Jul 2019 #162

I think harris, and those that continue to try and keep a 40+ yr old issue alive says a lot Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #142

I'd dare say that was the first salvo in a long campaign True Dough Jul 2019 #148

Not really a salvo though. More like a manipulative distraction R B Garr Jul 2019 #163

Premature to say backfiring True Dough Jul 2019 #164

It's pretty obvious the main objection to Joe is he's R B Garr Jul 2019 #168

It was the defining moment of the debate True Dough Jul 2019 #169

That's what I mean, he could have brought up her record, R B Garr Jul 2019 #171

Well, that's Joe's decision to make True Dough Jul 2019 #172

I don't think I've ever heard a candidate say she R B Garr Jul 2019 #175

You keep insisting it doesn't affect current voters True Dough Jul 2019 #178

She had to manipulate a useless 40-year old issue R B Garr Jul 2019 #195

We need to focus on today, tomorrow and everything from the candidates' past True Dough Jul 2019 #197

Now we're saddled with an inflammatory and useless R B Garr Jul 2019 #199

Busing won't be a lingering issue for much longer, IMO True Dough Jul 2019 #200

She might have just put a target on her back, though. R B Garr Jul 2019 #208

That's the thing about debates True Dough Jul 2019 #211

DU isn't the only one talking about "backtracking".. Cha Jul 2019 #222

"Althou a crowded debate stage was not the ideal place" need anyone say anymore Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #138

It was fair game True Dough Jul 2019 #141

She actually was allowed to go way overtime. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #237

And do ya really think busing is a winning issue? Geez last I knew health care was #1 Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #133

I just finished typing this post True Dough Jul 2019 #139

Its not just busing jromans Jul 2019 #205

When did she "make it seem like Biden was passing legislation that was inherently racist"? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #215

When that started with Pete, people here stopped it and the press also desisted. I am not a emmaverybo Jul 2019 #233

And how is that meaningful? He knew early in his term that cops were saying racist stuff... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #29

"I don't see much happening now with the police shooting." True Dough Jul 2019 #38

Almost 7 years after he knew their was an issue...and no offense...here in Ohio the investigate Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #40

same old dodgy spin you have been trying for months Celerity Jul 2019 #50

It will all be for naught if Pete can't get above 0% redstateblues Jul 2019 #61

I agree.I unfortunately think the shooting tragedy is going to be the coffin nail probably for him Celerity Jul 2019 #71

It wasn't an attack...I don't think he handled this properly...sure I get about the illegal part Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #102

new investigation over what? The Boykins wiretapping thing is still being litigated, and there will Celerity Jul 2019 #105

It is being litigated about releasing the information...why not another investigation? Why not a Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #109

as I stated before, there is so far no legal evidence that the cops did what Boykins accused them of Celerity Jul 2019 #115

Why not unseal the records then? Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #182

they cannot be unsealed until a court orders them unsealed, so far the controlling Celerity Jul 2019 #185

He is in his second term. He could have been working on it... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #186

its been in the courts hands (from state to federal and now back to state) for years Celerity Jul 2019 #187

I said they were illegal...but the fact was illegal or not, he knew there was a problem and did Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #99

no one other than Boykins and the coms director, and maybe the FBI/and Feds have actually heard Celerity Jul 2019 #110

Yup, that's a problem for Pete, it's a black mark on his record, marylandblue Jul 2019 #184

Not hiding anything but as this post has shown...warts are in the eye of the beholder. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #188

Yes. This. It's what is so refreshing and modern about Buttigieg. Politicub Jul 2019 #37

I don't get that and I like Buttigieg...smart and all...but the simplest thing in the world is to Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #47

Yes, it should be the simplest thing in the world. So Politicub Jul 2019 #59

Because it is not meaningful...and why in the world would Biden accept responsibility for trumped up Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #104

I'll be on my way. We differ philosophically so I don't Politicub Jul 2019 #147

Fair enough. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #181

He owns he fired the police chief. He has never said it was a mistake to fire a very popular police emmaverybo Jul 2019 #125

lol, the "good luck" is more needed to convince people R B Garr Jul 2019 #18

+1000 bluewater Jul 2019 #22

Yep. Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #49

Yup its called vetting & no candidate should be allowed to hide from his or her record. Nice try Joe InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #123

Exactly. Are we supposed to think that if Trump won't bring up his record? Clash City Rocker Jul 2019 #252

Of course, is only fair... if Joe can't respond to fellow Democrats re his record... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #253

Mistakes in a person's record are far less important than experience. gulliver Jul 2019 #245

Mistakes in a person's record are far less important than experience. True Dough Jul 2019 #246

Uh... he just did. dchill Jul 2019 #8

Yes he did. nt zackymilly Jul 2019 #64

Good for Joe. mac56 Jul 2019 #11

Exactly! OhZone Jul 2019 #45

We had better focus on the task at hand. democratisphere Jul 2019 #13

That is fine just stop self inflicted wounds. gordianot Jul 2019 #15

Does that mean he's going to stop talking about his past record, too? EffieBlack Jul 2019 #19

He can't have it both ways mcar Jul 2019 #132

And many of them haven't limited their attacks to her past career EffieBlack Jul 2019 #193

It's revolting mcar Jul 2019 #194

Neither can she. nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #243

Joe, I certainly hope you won't have need to break that promise, but I also hope you're not... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #23

One of the reasons he probably isnt going to win... Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #26

"The problem with Bernie is he is just to dicisive" bahrbearian Jul 2019 #58

As we've seen, there are plenty of skeletons in other candidate's closets wyldwolf Jul 2019 #28

Those skeletons will come out, but Joe won't be the one to release them. nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #35

Exactly. I just read one of the truancy arrests of a black female R B Garr Jul 2019 #48

You know what they say about people in glass houses...... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #53

Amen. I've heard of those stories but ignored them, but R B Garr Jul 2019 #54

There are some particulary nasty attacks against KH Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #55

And they are not coming from Biden.. he did in fact defend her on twitter...more than once!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #146

Link? mcar Jul 2019 #135

Google the politicians name and War on Truancy R B Garr Jul 2019 #137

I have read several articles about Harris and her prosecutorial career mcar Jul 2019 #140

Apparently you didn't Google it R B Garr Jul 2019 #145

Google this highplainsdem Jul 2019 #192

In my best Geraldine Jones voice: Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #232

Be amazing if she did a "this was that little sick girl you left without a caretaker." See how emmaverybo Jul 2019 #235

And it is usually twisted treestar Jul 2019 #39

no, it's not usually twisted wyldwolf Jul 2019 #80

No kidding. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #189

He's right about how things should not be taken out of context. Politicub Jul 2019 #30

Yet there are complaints treestar Jul 2019 #36

Does he want to run on experience but not on his record? shanny Jul 2019 #31

Circular firing squads, if unchecked, will concentrate on all top contenders. empedocles Jul 2019 #42

I looked forward to your treestar Jul 2019 #51

Yeah when the half-truth smear campaigns start against Warren and Harris, I doubt many emulatorloo Jul 2019 #69

+1 and I've pushed back on all those Warren attacks treestar Jul 2019 #207

Same here. I'm here to defeat Trump. emulatorloo Jul 2019 #224

LOL - A post battle royale! Politicub Jul 2019 #82

"her schoolmarm air"? seriously? shanny Jul 2019 #156

I don't see how you are calmly and collectedly treestar Jul 2019 #209

You don't know me from Adam and you certainly don't know shanny Jul 2019 #217

I don't see why it has to be negative treestar Jul 2019 #240

That's fine. shanny Jul 2019 #247

No, he doesn't want to lie about other Democrats and smear them with half-truths emulatorloo Jul 2019 #66

Yes!! He wans to run on his record. A record of civil rights, women's rights, LBGQt rights Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #150

I agree. treestar Jul 2019 #34

Go Joe! OhZone Jul 2019 #46

Are we stuck on what happened over a 20minute period last week? RandySF Jul 2019 #67

YES!! At least some are here... it should be a dead issue Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #151

Another way of saying "Leave me alone" Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #70

Another way of saying "I won't lie about my fellow Democrats by dishonesty misrepresenting their emulatorloo Jul 2019 #75

Tell me the lie being told about Biden by fellow Democrats. Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #79

Insinuating Biden is a racist segregationist is a lie. emulatorloo Jul 2019 #86

I don't think that is what happened. Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #91

Sure emulatorloo Jul 2019 #94

Your talking point is dishonest. Buzz cook Jul 2019 #213

This has been explained ad nauseum StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #216

Biden was portrayed as a racist with a pre-planned attack by Harris during the debate... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #116

Busing and t-shirts!! Now there's some issues that will excite the average voter!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #154

Haha ...isn't that the truth...busing...a modern exciting topic... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #180

Oh yes.. modern issue indeed! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #218

You seem to have missed the debate. Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #249

I watched the debate...i heard every word.it was a hit job. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #250

No, that's Not true.. Biden has already Cha Jul 2019 #219

Our Democratic candidates should not tear each other down, BUT ... Martin Eden Jul 2019 #101

The Nation Wanted to go to War Galraedia Jul 2019 #144

What you describe is the worst kind of politician and failure of leadership Martin Eden Jul 2019 #167

Biden's own son was sent to Iraq Galraedia Jul 2019 #174

"It was only later that they found out that they were lied to" Martin Eden Jul 2019 #177

What Church Lady said BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #122

I'm not buying that 100% and I'll tell you why. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #130

I was really impressed with Buttigieg's answer, too StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #198

"It's no FAIR to judge me on what I've said and done" DasMadchen Jul 2019 #155

They really aren't relevant BUT Joe's inability to apologize (see the fascist) is BAD toofold4this Jul 2019 #158

Apologize for what? For a position 40 years ago that apparently Harris now supports. Those who don't Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #183

He doesn't need to. Deb Jul 2019 #170

He may not for right now not that won't stop other candidates from going after. FloridaBlues Jul 2019 #173

Smart enough to know he is in a glass house. nt HopeAgain Jul 2019 #210

This is for all those accusing Biden of trying to Duck Cha Jul 2019 #223

Joe Biden Is The Only Democrat With A Clear Advantage Over Trump In New Poll Gothmog Jul 2019 #225

"Hey guys, let's not look at our histories, OK? Deal?"...nt SidDithers Jul 2019 #241

What's sauce for the goose..... nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #242

I agree with Joe! True Blue American Jul 2019 #251