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Perseus

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40. "Sounds good but what's all this going to cost?"

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2019, 08:50 PM

Jul 2019

It will cost cutting corrupt spending on the military, corrupt spending by politicians (July 4th 'parade'?), better transparency of how the money is spent, etc., etc.

When the country becomes educated, when citizens are provided by their right of health services, then we pay with taxes, in the long run the citizens will do better by paying higher taxes and saving on health care and education costs.

I was in Canada many years ago, a friend of mine (a banker) and I went to dinner, I paid and as I was looking at the check I noticed the taxes, so I made a "joke" to the waitress about paying so much, she responded (didn't like my bad joke) that she was happy to pay it because the government did well by her. My friend then offered to explain how much more we pay for health care and education than Canadians do, even with those taxes. He pull out the numbers and I was horrified to see how stupid we are.

That is how you pay for it. Our military budget is insane, immoral, we can cut on that, and we need a better tax system to make sure it is fair by eliminating loopholes by the super rich. "what's all this going to cost?"...we all know we can afford it.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders hit back at Joe Biden for questioning progressive agenda [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 OP

let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #1

In for Joe! LincolnRossiter Jul 2019 #22

the F-35 program has already passed 1 trillion. lets start there Kurt V. Jul 2019 #2

That program is untouchable in Bernie's view. TexasTowelie Jul 2019 #100

o'rourke has called for more oversight of the program. a brave position. bravo to him. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #131

"...what's all this going to cost?" It will cost less than not doing it. nt PETRUS Jul 2019 #3

Doing what? The "green new deal" hasn't even been written yet. We know NOTHING about it.... George II Jul 2019 #9

Hi! PETRUS Jul 2019 #10

Right. So why the fuss. What's the argument KPN Jul 2019 #106

Exactly. I'm tired of listening to Democrat's KPN Jul 2019 #103

What's the cost if we don't make higher ed and health care readily accessible KPN Jul 2019 #4

Don't call me a right winger Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #11

I pay 400 dollars a month for health insurance, if Medicare for all increases my taxes by 300... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #15

I pay $100 a month so I don't think I could afford that increase. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #16

And I can't afford 400 dollars a month, so what are we supposed to do? Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #18

If your only paying $100... quakerboy Jul 2019 #67

Based on the few details we have, it's going to cost a lot more than just $300 a month. George II Jul 2019 #19

From what I've heard, its going to be funded based on a progressive tax of some sort... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #21

The private healthcare insurance industry is already under strict regulations (in most states)... George II Jul 2019 #26

Oh please, don't feed me that line of bull, my rates increased last year because... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #28

As I said, in MOST states. George II Jul 2019 #58

Really? Which states forbid insurance companies from raising rates or changing coverage... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #60

You really should read my previous posts, that would answer your question. George II Jul 2019 #61

I read them melman Jul 2019 #63

Hey mel, I missed you. Yes they do. Try again, 'kay? George II Jul 2019 #64

So I did, and you and your wife were extremely lucky with your insurance premiums.... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #68

I don't know what my wife has to do with this, have I mentioned her in this thread? George II Jul 2019 #69

You told me to search your posts, so I searched your username and the word "insurance" in the... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #77

"Or are you trying to dox me? " melman Jul 2019 #88

I don't know of any states that "forbid" insurance companies from raising rates, this is what I said George II Jul 2019 #129

really, let's looks at CEO's compensations of health insurance companies AlexSFCA Jul 2019 #57

I have to agree. TexasTowelie Jul 2019 #102

I pay zero for Medicare plus United Health Care. With UHC, I am covered for urgent care and emmaverybo Jul 2019 #44

Why are you using a Republican talking point about VA health care... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #45

Because that is the only federal system we have experience with in America and others we point emmaverybo Jul 2019 #49

I find this amusing, you claim that VA is the only experience Americans have with... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #52

Right. Medicare. And it is imperfect because as a stand alone it does not give complete coverage, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #55

Why not institute Medicare buy in while expanding Medicare to cover all gaps it currently has? Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #59

Medicaid eligibility could easily be changed so that a wider number can qualify. The program emmaverybo Jul 2019 #70

Until you have the courts rescind some previous decisions you won't get far... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #80

So much work to do, both to undo and to move forward! And the courts...NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #83

WOWZA quakerboy Jul 2019 #84

I mean groups not covered. And I don't mean very wealthy people. Bring down ACA premiums, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #105

My brother receives health care through the VA system TexasTowelie Jul 2019 #107

Im gonna have to disagree with you entirely quakerboy Jul 2019 #111

There will be deductibles and co-insurance will be needed. Medicare for all is not cheaper. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #54

Its cheaper in Canada, hell, UHC schema, Multi-payer, Government-Run... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #62

This isn't Canada. And it took years to get the system up and running. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #114

Medicare is NOT FREE LibFarmer Jul 2019 #72

Didn't claim it was free? Still sounds like a deal versus my employer provided coverage. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #74

Some employer provided coverage costs nothing LibFarmer Jul 2019 #76

That certainly doesn't represent the vast majority of workers though. Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #79

Almost all union coverage and most MNC coverage cosstsvery little. nt LibFarmer Jul 2019 #85

I worked nearly a decade for a PBM that dealt with the prescription coverage for... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #124

+10000 redstateblues Jul 2019 #99

Medicare only pays 80%. I had sinus surgery and got a bill for $3000 redstateblues Jul 2019 #98

They didn't call you a right winger Lordquinton Jul 2019 #34

Oh please Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #35

Bernie's is the agenda to re-elect Trump redstateblues Jul 2019 #5

Before we can accomplish anything we need to win the election. demosincebirth Jul 2019 #23

Howd that work out last time? quakerboy Jul 2019 #90

We won the House back leaning liberal but not too far redstateblues Jul 2019 #92

Interesting take quakerboy Jul 2019 #112

AOC's district is lots further left than most of America redstateblues Jul 2019 #122

Amen empedocles Jul 2019 #39

Right, it's either him or trump, just like in '16 lunamagica Jul 2019 #42

+1,000,000 nt LibFarmer Jul 2019 #73

The "green new deal" hasn't even been written! The people responsible for the "plan".... George II Jul 2019 #6

No, that's acknowledging is complicated and need to be detailed... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #12

Some are demanding that we adopt the "green new deal", so we should adopt something... George II Jul 2019 #17

They are asking that we sign on to the overall goals which largely amount to... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #20

I don't understand the opposition to the Green New Deal... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #7

I am thrilled that Joe clearly separated himself from the likes of them - no ambiguity there.... Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #8

Same here RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #110

I'll almost always support Joe over AOC and BS. comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #13

AOC and Bernie are lightweights as compared to Joe. nt LibFarmer Jul 2019 #75

Indeed. comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #101

I'm for Joe! demosincebirth Jul 2019 #14

Biden is trying to hold back the tide Tarc Jul 2019 #24

Biden is the BLUE tidal wave WA-03 Democrat Jul 2019 #27

187 Tarc Jul 2019 #89

How much did it cost to bail out the banks? YOHABLO Jul 2019 #25

Financial Crisis Bailouts Have Earned Taxpayers Billions Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #33

Correction, it earned the government billions, who then redistributed it, through tax breaks... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #38

The money was paid back. Period. Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #46

And the American people haven't recovered financially, which is the more important point... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #53

I can't wait for Biden - hurry 2020! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #65

Thanks for the facts. Always better than opinions lacking any. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #47

Just what part of the article I linked in did you not READ ?!! Trillions still paying out ! YOHABLO Jul 2019 #127

How much does it cost if an economy fails... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #56

I think it's better to... billpolonsky Jul 2019 #29

Good for Joe! murielm99 Jul 2019 #30

Yeah, but you know what this argument sounds like? PatrickforO Jul 2019 #50

Excellent points! Thx Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #97

Nobody knows ... not to be blunt, but even the Sierra Club sums it up as close to RHMerriman Jul 2019 #31

What will it cost if it is not done? guillaumeb Jul 2019 #32

Should I question one who hires people to high positions in their campaign who voted Jill Stein, still_one Jul 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Jul 2019 #37

"Sounds good but what's all this going to cost?" Perseus Jul 2019 #40

Didn't matter what the tax breaks for the wealthy cost. Fuck it, this shouldn't matter either. Autumn Jul 2019 #41

Yep, everyone wants to go back to the good ole days of working with Republicans to get things done! jalan48 Jul 2019 #43

Well, what did the giant tax cut for billionaires and corporations cost? PatrickforO Jul 2019 #48

Democrats? attacking Democrats liberal N proud Jul 2019 #51

Why is Biden attacking Bernie in the first place? jromans Jul 2019 #66

Oddly, Bernie supporters name Biden as their most likely second choice. Maybe that will change, if emmaverybo Jul 2019 #82

He didn't. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #109

Neither person dies a good job of explaining how we will pay for their ideas. Blue_true Jul 2019 #71

joe NBachers Jul 2019 #78

re: "Sounds good but what's all this going to cost?" thesquanderer Jul 2019 #81

Repealing the ACA and taking employer based insurance away from 180 million is redstateblues Jul 2019 #87

AOC has been taking pot shots at Biden and he has never responded 5starlib Jul 2019 #86

Doing Putin's and in turn Trump's work Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #91

. . . and as MAD magazine fades away, the vacuum is filled . . . ucrdem Jul 2019 #93

forget 2018. hillary was a middlecrat now wasn't she. pansypoo53219 Jul 2019 #94

Hillary ran on what Sanders called "the most progressive platform" in party history. W_HAMILTON Jul 2019 #96

No she wasn't. And consider more recently, the house was won by moderates. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #115

"middlecrat" betsuni Jul 2019 #117

It's going to cost a whole lot less shanny Jul 2019 #95

Conversations I keep seeing: betsuni Jul 2019 #104

Ugh, progressives have been right all the time. rusty quoin Jul 2019 #108

Ohr childrens future will be very bleak if Trump uses MFA to win another term. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #116

So you think Biden isn't progressive? betsuni Jul 2019 #119

When I heard about this DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #113

See this where we make mistakes. Americans don't support MFA if Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #118

Sorry, but Americans with private insurance DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #123

LOL anointed. betsuni Jul 2019 #120

middle america is NOT a left-center area and what sounds so great for coastal liberals, falls flat beachbum bob Jul 2019 #121

"Sounds good but what's all this going to cost?" is an odd postscript Alex4Martinez Jul 2019 #125

You're making a false argument Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #128

I loved it when Joe Biden stood up for himself. Midwestocrat Jul 2019 #126

As AOC goes...so goes AOC brooklynite Jul 2019 #130