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bluewater

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61. "Now, your motive here seems to be.. "
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 04:27 PM
Jul 2019

When I posted this:

"But your post is now attributing a malicious motive to the headline. Honestly, that is a bridge too far."

I think I responded too strongly to you and by saying "your post" inadvertently injected a personal element into my response.

Please let me apologize for that.

I understand why you responded in kind, so let me reset this with out being personal.

I take your point about media manipulation.
I understand why people think the headline is misleading.
I understand the distinction people are making about the Headline's phrasing.

I didn't think the headline was being misleading. I honestly did not read it that way, I guess I expect headlines to be overly brief and sloppy. And I didn't think it was intended to be malicious.

What's that old saying? Never attribute to malice what can more easily be explained by stupidity.

The point I have been trying to make about this thread is that so many Biden supporters seemed overly sensitive about the headline. And yes, I wanted to bring attention to this because, and I would bet money on this, I don't believe anyone would have commented on the headline if Biden was leading the polls by 60%.

But because Biden's support has dropped significantly since the first debate, many of his supporters are on edge and over reacted, in my opinion, to this headline. The actual OP article is very detailed and very fair on the points fleetingly mentioned in the headline, but no one focused on that, just on the headline.

Thanks for providing an opportunity for me to reflect on my response to you. And though we are still disagreeing about aspects of this thread, I hope you accept my apology, it is sincere.

Thanks for the discussion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I admire her principled stance on this True Dough Jul 2019 #1
it would be a lose-lose move by her. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #2
Exactly. I will support whoever is nominated. ananda Jul 2019 #3
Presidents and spouses do not endorse until after the electorate has chosen their champions.. Peacetrain Jul 2019 #4
Another misleading headline... quickesst Jul 2019 #5
Yes, deliberately misleading. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #6
They're not getting any better at it either quickesst Jul 2019 #9
Yes. Headline is deliberating misleading to create an impression opposite to what she said. yardwork Jul 2019 #10
I agree quickesst Jul 2019 #15
And this is the so-called "liberal media." The blatantly fascist media just lies. yardwork Jul 2019 #40
I actually think.... quickesst Jul 2019 #50
I pray you are right! I certainly intend to fight like hell for whomever is our nominee. yardwork Jul 2019 #56
Yes, the headline is misleading. People who don't read beyond the headlines Arkansas Granny Jul 2019 #11
It was not a very smooth attempt quickesst Jul 2019 #34
Agree 100 percent. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #28
Yep... quickesst Jul 2019 #35
MSM wants a war within the party mcar Jul 2019 #31
I plan on it... quickesst Jul 2019 #36
Brava. MBS Jul 2019 #7
Yet another misleading headline. MineralMan Jul 2019 #8
Wise. BlueWI Jul 2019 #12
Is this a misquote? SCVDem Jul 2019 #13
Assume unspoken: ['... of the season'] Tactical Peek Jul 2019 #19
probably was supposed to be first OF seven games (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2019 #42
Is disappointment feuling claims the Headline is misleading? bluewater Jul 2019 #14
The headline is a hybrid.... quickesst Jul 2019 #20
No candidate was endorsed, that includes Biden. bluewater Jul 2019 #22
no one is disputing that quickesst Jul 2019 #32
It seemed clear enough to me. bluewater Jul 2019 #37
The headline is literally true, but gives a false impression. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #44
let me restate this here... bluewater Jul 2019 #45
I'm not Biden-sensitive (my 4th choice at best), I just think it's an ambiguously written headline, thesquanderer Jul 2019 #49
I just think people are overly sensitive about a Headline bluewater Jul 2019 #54
I will agree.... quickesst Jul 2019 #46
Thanks bluewater Jul 2019 #48
You are welcome, and thank you quickesst Jul 2019 #52
Back at you! bluewater Jul 2019 #55
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #21
Quoting Michelle Obama is "bad" now? bluewater Jul 2019 #25
"Quoting" R B Garr Jul 2019 #27
Want to see Michelle's quotes again? Okie Dokie bluewater Jul 2019 #29
Thanks for eliminating the trollish spin. R B Garr Jul 2019 #30
Ah, the perrsonal Attack! The last gasp of a failing argument. lol bluewater Jul 2019 #33
As a Warren supporter, I find your response.... inaccurate at best. yardwork Jul 2019 #41
Media stirring the pot LibFarmer Jul 2019 #16
How Dare the Media interview Michelle Obama! bluewater Jul 2019 #17
"pot stirrers" R B Garr Jul 2019 #24
ikr lol bluewater Jul 2019 #38
Wow, Biden can't profit after his time spent serving Obama Beringia Jul 2019 #18
Please just let us know mainstreetonce Jul 2019 #23
However the media twists the headline, everyone knows who she supports Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #26
"everyone knows who she supports" DesertRat Jul 2019 #58
This is quite a misleading headline. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #39
The Headline seems to have hit a nerve. bluewater Jul 2019 #43
It's not 100% correct unless Michelle had been planning to announce an endorsement. ucrdem Jul 2019 #47
"but she had no intention of making an endorsement until the nomination is official" bluewater Jul 2019 #51
"demurs" would be more accurate. Shorter too! ucrdem Jul 2019 #53
Lol. yardwork Jul 2019 #57
No, it actually isn't. The concept is called conflation, and what it looks like PatrickforO Jul 2019 #60
"Now, your motive here seems to be.. " bluewater Jul 2019 #61
Sure. No worries. It gets pretty hot around here during the primaries and lots of folks get upset PatrickforO Jul 2019 #62
or themselves! bluewater Jul 2019 #63
Obama heaped praise onto Joe Biden after his former VP entered the 2020 presidential campaign... Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #59
Good Reminder, Skya.. Thank You! Cha Jul 2019 #64
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