Democratic Primaries

beachbum bob

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56. anger wins

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Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:50 AM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Policy or Popularity? Which Wins Elections? [View all] MineralMan Jul 2019 OP

policy can change rampartc Jul 2019 #1

Policies always change, to suit the current situation. MineralMan Jul 2019 #2

Charisma and the ability to inspire and motivate is what wins elections Indygram Jul 2019 #27

It's all about personality and narrative. dalton99a Jul 2019 #3

Exactly. Most people make most decisions on that basis. MineralMan Jul 2019 #4

Wait a minute. In another thread (your own OP, in fact) Ron Green Jul 2019 #34

Actually, no. The GND is a policy document, even without MineralMan Jul 2019 #40

It's the most effective environmental branding since the Cayuhoga River caught fire. marylandblue Jul 2019 #51

Quite true, I'm afraid. Here's an anecdote from recent personal experience: Mister Ed Jul 2019 #8

And there you are. In a nutshell. MineralMan Jul 2019 #41

It's not either-or. Often policy is presented as personality and vice versa. ancianita Jul 2019 #5

Populism won in 2016. MineralMan Jul 2019 #7

Right. And that calls for engaging the aspirations of the populace, and how right they are to have ancianita Jul 2019 #10

The average non-wonk voter thinks that policy MineralMan Jul 2019 #12

That's a very disparaging thing to say about the voters. bluewater Jul 2019 #15

I agree completely with mineralman. You may think it disparaging, most are not informed at all Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #17

Why does it have to be about mind reading. Why can't it be about the long term experience of ancianita Jul 2019 #20

Let me ask you this: Who is the current President of the United States? MineralMan Jul 2019 #23

So issues like the economy weren't a factor? Just prejudices? bluewater Jul 2019 #30

Indeed! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #36

Yes, Trump lied to the voters about that, and everything else. MineralMan Jul 2019 #42

Yes. In that lies our problem. I want a lot of policy that I don't personally benefit from, but as ancianita Jul 2019 #19

It's complicated, isn't it? MineralMan Jul 2019 #22

Yes. But we here make it worse with infighting. So I say, let the country look over our policies ancianita Jul 2019 #25

We have to present a unified vision, not a fragmented, disputed one. MineralMan Jul 2019 #29

Fair enough. We only dispute the likelihood of their getting to the presidency by the larger voting ancianita Jul 2019 #33

Yes we do!! And anyone who thinks the repukes are not reading what we write...wrong Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #37

Both Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #6

Kamala Harris has likability going for her - in a big way, actually. MineralMan Jul 2019 #9

and let's not underestimate this... Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #16

Hmm...I really tend to ignore that in terms of politics. MineralMan Jul 2019 #18

And for that very fact alone I say we must lower the voting age to 12, the age that kids can follow ancianita Jul 2019 #28

Agree here's another fact. Newspapers most, write for the level of a 6th grader..so yeah about 12 Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #38

Yes, they do, and they write to that level because research shows them MineralMan Jul 2019 #43

Well...maybe the same applied to Obama...and Clinton... Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #46

The... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #11

That's what history should have taught us. MineralMan Jul 2019 #13

"Policy" sometimes turns out to be how many angels are dancing on The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #14

Very well said! MineralMan Jul 2019 #24

Unfortunately, I think this is largely true peggysue2 Jul 2019 #21

Before you can market the message, you must make sure it is marketable. MineralMan Jul 2019 #26

That's absolutely true, MM peggysue2 Jul 2019 #35

Sorry, but when it boils down to it, it's math and a map. Amimnoch Jul 2019 #31

That's right! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #39

congress legislates not president AlexSFCA Jul 2019 #32

Great policies make a candidate popular. BeckyDem Jul 2019 #44

Not necessarily. What polices of Trump's are good? MineralMan Jul 2019 #45

It's a mass cognitive deficiency, as I see it. Today's Washington Post/ABC News Poll shows it. ancianita Jul 2019 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author marylandblue Jul 2019 #52

Huh? ancianita Jul 2019 #54

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you personally made fun of anyone. marylandblue Jul 2019 #55

It's fine. I just wanted to address your concern and re-explain my post, is all. No apology needed. ancianita Jul 2019 #58

The candidates we have are pushing policies that are already popular. BeckyDem Jul 2019 #49

Joe Biden Is The Only Democrat With A Clear Advantage Over Trump In New Poll Gothmog Jul 2019 #47

It's not an either or with policy or personality and it's not a one size fits all approach. marylandblue Jul 2019 #50

I'd have to say personality customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #53

anger wins beachbum bob Jul 2019 #56

We absolutely MUST have an Electoral College strategy this time. CTyankee Jul 2019 #57

Here is some great polling Gothmog Jul 2019 #59

For democrats, policy with a mannerism where the candidate interact with people. Blue_true Jul 2019 #60

in 2020... myohmy2 Jul 2019 #61