Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Bernie. Don't go there. Just do not. Just STOP. [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Maddow wasn't asking Sanders to comment about about people saying HE's too old to be President. And she stated that she asked it because people who thought that Swallwell's comment addressed not only Biden's career, but his age, wanted to hear why Sanders claimed it was "ageist."
She asked Sanders about his claim that something that Eric Swallwell said to BIDEN during the debate: "You've had your chance, it's time to pass the torch" was ageist. Which actually most took to be a comment about Biden having an extensive career in the Sen and a role as VP in a historic white house. And that Biden could have run in 2016, but gave it a pass.
If you recall, Swallwell's comment not directed at, nor did it refer to Sanders, but apparently Sanders thinks it was. Nor did Maddow ask Sanders what he thought of people 'saying HE was to old to be president..."
Let's just take a look at the transcript, shall we?
MADDOW: The last question for you and it is a little bit of sticky wicket
and I do not want you to be annoyed for asking. But it is the thing
when I talked to people about having on the show today, it was the number
one thing people wanted me to ask you about, which was the issue raised by
Eric Swalwell, who has now dropped out of the race for president, in the
debate, when he and he directed it to Vice President Biden and his
refrain was pass the torch. That you`ve had your chance, you`ve been in
politics for a long time and we need younger leadership basically.
Basically making an overt age argument for why Vice President Biden
shouldn`t be the nominee and implicitly why you shouldn`t be the nominee.
You called that ageist after the debate. But I wonder how you grapple with
the substance of that argument.
SANDERS: You know, if you look at history, there were arguments why black
people shouldn`t be president, why women shouldn`t be president.
There were some people who are 90 who are a lot more active and energetic than people who are 50.
You have to look at what somebody believes, what somebody is fighting for,
what their experience is about. Just to look at age is I think missing the
boat in a very, very deep way.
MADDOW: But he is talking about length of experience in the political system.
SANDERS: Yes.
http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2019-07-10
So Sanders is not only claiming that Swallwell's statement wasn't addressing Biden's extensive career at all, but "just looking at age" and was therefore Swallwell saying the very same about any candidate his age or older. Which means that he was actually also saying that Bernie was too old to be POTUS.
And then went on to use that to claim to put forth the notion that he, as an older white male candidate, was the subject of discrimination comparable with racism and/or sexism which is actually being faced by several of his opponents, incidentally one who is polling right along with him.
He has stated in the past that he believes that some women and people of color running for office have expected people to vote for them 'simply because they are latina/woman' etc.
So the exasperation that people have over comparing percieved "ageism" towards a white male candiate to racism and sexism against candidates of women and POC is understandable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden