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tulipsandroses

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9. I'm a non believer but I don't take issue with him quoting the Bible

Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:57 AM

Jul 2019

I get that some people use the Bible as the center for their morality- Nothing wrong with that

Matter of fact - I agreed with Sen Koons recently when he said that Democrats that are religious should talk about their faith more. Not in the terms of using it in govt - But Americans are using that as a litmus test as to whether they are going to vote for someone. The religious right has completely taken religion to be their own as if Democrats are all A-religious. That is not true. He mentioned how Joe Biden's carries Rosary Beads with him all the time, and talks to his colleagues about how his faith got him through tough times. Cory Booker mentions his faith and how his faith centers him. Sen Warren was a Sunday school teacher.

I think its also good political strategy to mention your faith. It might sound weird to use religion as political strategy but I don't think of it in a way being manipulative. Its about being authentic. It does not mean that you are going to let religion affect how you govern. I think its a good thing that the religious folks show a contrast in how they practice their faith vs the religious right. One of the quotes that I read from Mayor Pete was that twitter thread re: Mike Pence being a fake Christian regarding treatment of migrants.
The Bible is filled with verses re: How immigrants should be treated - Yet according to many of the religious right they should be treated in just this manner.
I have not heard him talk about using his faith to govern. He is being authentic in that faith is a big part of his life. Staying true to who he is. As a person who is non religious, I appreciate that and give him space for that. Its the same space that I want to be my non religious authentic self.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Why I can't support Mayor Pete [View all] Cartoonist Jul 2019 OP

I take issue with that as well but will vote for him if he's the nominee (and doesn't chowder66 Jul 2019 #1

If he's the nominee radical noodle Jul 2019 #17

Yes. If he is the nominee and regarding tripping up, depending... it could be enough. chowder66 Jul 2019 #25

Can you name any Democratic president or nominee who wasn't quite open about belonging to a highplainsdem Jul 2019 #2

This! Amimnoch Jul 2019 #48

Proud to be Jewish iamthebandfanman Jul 2019 #72

You're right about Bernie. But I was asking about past presidents and presidential nominees, not highplainsdem Jul 2019 #85

I remain firm in my support of his candidacy... Moostache Jul 2019 #80

Whether or not he gets the nomination, I think it's extremely important, and helpful to highplainsdem Jul 2019 #87

I have no problem with it. I also agree that religion and government shouldn't mix, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #3

Well said, this atheist concurs ... nt mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #27

You so fine! 😊 sprinkleeninow Jul 2019 #52

So you won't be voting for anyone? brooklynite Jul 2019 #4

I have no problem with personal belief Cartoonist Jul 2019 #33

So you didn't vote for President Obama? brooklynite Jul 2019 #34

Of course I voted for Obama Cartoonist Jul 2019 #36

Zero of his policies have anything religious in content, I am an atheist to the bone, and have Celerity Jul 2019 #42

If he keeps it that way, fine. Cartoonist Jul 2019 #44

I have watched dozens upon dozens of hours of talks and speeches, have read a copious amount Celerity Jul 2019 #46

But you've already say you won't support him... brooklynite Jul 2019 #51

The only vote I ever regret was because of religious influence... not_the_one Jul 2019 #69

Great post. I echo what you say about Carter. redstateblues Jul 2019 #76

Any objective sources for that allegation? LanternWaste Jul 2019 #73

So you had a lot of reservations about Carter because of his religion? marylandblue Jul 2019 #53

I was OK with Carter Cartoonist Jul 2019 #57

Then you have no reason to doubt Buttigieg, unless you can demonstrate that marylandblue Jul 2019 #59

Sorry Cartoonist Jul 2019 #63

You can be uneasy as much as you want, you have no reason for it. marylandblue Jul 2019 #67

This was my first thought after I saw the OP, too. n/t Politicub Jul 2019 #65

I see him shaming the fundies, which is good BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #5

Actually, though i'm agnostic, I LOVE that he is doing that. Taking the RW fundy hypocrisy headon hlthe2b Jul 2019 #6

+1000 Meadowoak Jul 2019 #8

That was chintzy. Lefta Dissenter Jul 2019 #28

I do that myself... Mayor Pete is possibly the smartest person running for President lapfog_1 Jul 2019 #68

Well fucking good for you! leftofcool Jul 2019 #7

And how is that working? Cartoonist Jul 2019 #37

turn him loose in a debate with Pence, lolo.Also, the Never-Trumper Rethugs talk about being ashamed Celerity Jul 2019 #43

Oh Yes! Pete vs. Pence! Delish! floppyboo Jul 2019 #70

Has nothing to do with Republican politicians who won't change. marylandblue Jul 2019 #55

I'm a non believer but I don't take issue with him quoting the Bible tulipsandroses Jul 2019 #9

I agree. Let's elect candidates for whom FACTS - not fantasy - are of primary concern. stopbush Jul 2019 #10

Here are some facts leftofcool Jul 2019 #12

Medicare for All has to happen slowly. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #19

+1 Celerity Jul 2019 #45

I think you misunderstand him. Nt BootinUp Jul 2019 #11

Huh? I think Buttigieg would agree with you about separation of religion and government. There's KPN Jul 2019 #13

As a good as an excuse as any left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #14

Why do you do that? Why do you assume that people's.... LAS14 Jul 2019 #23

"Why do you assume that people's motives are other than what they say they are?" left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #29

Sorry, I don't understand your subject. As for the body of your post, LAS14 Jul 2019 #31

Bye left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #32

It's my only excuse Cartoonist Jul 2019 #38

So your problem is he's religious? FreeState Jul 2019 #49

No Cartoonist Jul 2019 #58

Again, what is precise measure of "too religious."? LanternWaste Jul 2019 #74

Quoting the Bible Cartoonist Jul 2019 #89

Your concern is noted wyldwolf Jul 2019 #15

It's past time the dems challenged the myth that the GOP is the party of God. CrispyQ Jul 2019 #16

For me, "reclaiming" the bible should not be a policy the president takes the lead on. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #18

Quoting the Bible or pointing out religious hypocrisy are not policies. marylandblue Jul 2019 #60

I don't think a president should do either of those, either. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #62

Too much focus on his personal issues. democratisphere Jul 2019 #20

Agreed that religion should play no official part, guillaumeb Jul 2019 #21

So far Cartoonist Jul 2019 #35

Agreed. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #41

He will NOT do that, ever. That is not who he is. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2019 #71

I assume you mean in the primaries? nt LAS14 Jul 2019 #22

Normally, I'd agree with you on that customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #24

Any mention of religion in politics is a big turnoff to me, but mtnsnake Jul 2019 #26

What about he sings Dave in VA Jul 2019 #30

I never liked that song Cartoonist Jul 2019 #39

I think a great song for him would be Celerity Jul 2019 #50

Here's my friend singing... Dave in VA Jul 2019 #40

+10000 Celerity Jul 2019 #47

He's trying to create/resurrect a "religious left" dalton99a Jul 2019 #54

You mean like this? MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #56

Bill Clinton quoted scripture when he accepted the nomination in 1992 Shrek Jul 2019 #61

Buttigieg has to run for president unlike any other person who has come before him. Politicub Jul 2019 #64

That's a solid reason BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #66

I don't go to church but respect Pete's marlakay Jul 2019 #75

+1... SidDithers Jul 2019 #77

So, Buttigieg is a theocrat? brooklynite Jul 2019 #86

In 1976 I said the same thing about Jimmy Carter. TygrBright Jul 2019 #78

That bugs me too Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2019 #79

he's calling out their hypocrisy more than anything nini Jul 2019 #81

I quote from the Bible quite often .. and I also quote Harry Crews, W. Faulkner and W. Shakespeare. DemoTex Jul 2019 #82

I recall my very anti-clerical, atheist granfather saying: rzemanfl Jul 2019 #83

Meh OneBro Jul 2019 #84

Mayor Pete has no intention of injecting secondwind Jul 2019 #88