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In reply to the discussion: Biden says he was deceived by Bush on Iraq [View all]NYC Liberal
(20,453 posts)24. I knew it was bullshit too.
On 15 February 2003, there was a coordinated day of protests across the world in which people in more than 600 cities expressed opposition to the imminent Iraq War. It was part of a series of protests and political events that had begun in 2002 and continued as the war took place. Social movement researchers have described the 15 February protest as "the largest protest event in human history".
Sources vary in their estimations of the number of participants involved. According to BBC News, between six and eleven million people took part in protests in up to sixty countries over the weekend of 15 and 16 February; other estimates range from eight million to thirty million.
Some of the largest protests took place in Europe. The protest in Rome involved around three million people, and is listed in the 2004 Guinness Book of World Records as the largest anti-war rally in history. Madrid hosted the second largest rally with more than 1.5 million people protesting the invasion of Iraq; Mainland China was the only major region not to see any protests on that day, but small demonstrations, attended mainly by foreign students, were seen later.
Sources vary in their estimations of the number of participants involved. According to BBC News, between six and eleven million people took part in protests in up to sixty countries over the weekend of 15 and 16 February; other estimates range from eight million to thirty million.
Some of the largest protests took place in Europe. The protest in Rome involved around three million people, and is listed in the 2004 Guinness Book of World Records as the largest anti-war rally in history. Madrid hosted the second largest rally with more than 1.5 million people protesting the invasion of Iraq; Mainland China was the only major region not to see any protests on that day, but small demonstrations, attended mainly by foreign students, were seen later.
Consistent with the anti-war sentiment of the protests, in the months leading up to the Iraq War, American public opinion heavily favored a diplomatic solution over immediate military intervention. A January 2003 CBS News/New York Times poll found that 63% of Americans wanted President Bush to find a diplomatic solution to the Iraq situation, compared with 31% who favored immediate military intervention.
Nearly six in 10 said they were ready for such an invasion "in the next week or two." But that support dropped off if the U.N. backing was not first obtained. If the U.N. Security Council were to reject a resolution paving the way for military action, only 54% of Americans favored a U.S. invasion. And if the Bush administration did not seek a final Security Council vote, support for a war dropped to 47%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_anti-war_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_Iraq_War





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21 Democratic senators weren't fooled either. Neither was Sanders or 126 Dem house members. nt
thesquanderer
Jul 2019
#4
Voting to support regime change is NOT the same as voting for troops on the ground!
thesquanderer
Jul 2019
#136
Fact remains Sanders was fine with forcing Sadaam out of power and that meanst
Nuggets
Jul 2019
#142
re: "Sanders was fine with forcing Sadaam out of power and that meanst means military efforts"
thesquanderer
Jul 2019
#143
Ditto... an administration staffed with known warmongers, not to mention the O-I-L.
SMC22307
Jul 2019
#96
As it was with so many others that were deceived. Anyone but me remember Collin Powell's
Thekaspervote
Jul 2019
#2
The Mother Of All Dream Tickets!! tRumpty Dumbty would be history, without a doubt!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2019
#89
Okay, call it deception. I call it a complete lie. This is why Bush/Cheney should face war crimes.
YOHABLO
Jul 2019
#60
I think he's already said Republicans would work with him if he became President. I'm
jalan48
Jul 2019
#7
Of course Joe did...was painfully obvious to anyone takin the time to evaluate the lack of evidence!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2019
#78
Hard to believe, that's for sure... even harder that some can't accept responsibility.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2019
#98
I'm a little surprised to hear Joe make excuses like that... Bernie sure wasn't fooled by Shrub!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2019
#76
So is the campaign that hires people to high positions in their campaign who not only voted for Jill
still_one
Jul 2019
#21
I find someone who was instrumental in giving us Trump even more disqualifying.
Amimnoch
Jul 2019
#48
That's the go to excuse/justification for Dem pols confronted with their vote for AUMF
Jake Stern
Jul 2019
#23
Amazing isn't it?!?! I seem to recall Hillary getting that one right and admitting her mistake.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2019
#84
Right! This like Harry Reid trusting McConnell. Or Biden trusting McConnell, for that matter.
JudyM
Jul 2019
#61
Why isn't anyone claiming Iraq War vote is off limits because Obama picked him as VP?
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#34
Yet he took a different position once he was a candidate for president and as President.
wyldwolf
Jul 2019
#51
Why do you think this is mocking? The mocking' is you second guessing Obama's VP choice
wyldwolf
Jul 2019
#54
Just like insisting that Biden can't have his civil rights record questioned because Obama picked hi
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#117
But Biden didn't claim he might have voted differently if he had access to the intelligence
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#119
Lol...get a grip, Wolf. HRC wins easily in 2008 if she had voted against IWR
BeyondGeography
Jul 2019
#77
Those were caucus states and Mark Penn the genius didn't have a plan for them
BeyondGeography
Jul 2019
#109
He didn't say he would have voted differently. He was giving an out to those who did
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#43
Why do you seem to have difficulty engaging in discussions with me without being uncivil?
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#47
I am really done with this argument. A lot was going on in 2003 and we ignore it all to use it as
silentEcho
Jul 2019
#37
Judgment at that time mattered, and the fruits of that invasion continue to this day.
JudyM
Jul 2019
#62
So do the facts of the time and the actual vote that was taken, but we never discuss that.
silentEcho
Jul 2019
#70
i am in complete agreement with you that the facts matter. Not that past judgment calls don't.
JudyM
Jul 2019
#93
I like Joe, but c'mon own up to it. We all knew Bush and Cheney were not telling the truth.
End_Electoral
Jul 2019
#65
Neither is someone appointing people who proudly voted for Jill Stein and encouraging others to do
still_one
Jul 2019
#92
Sorry, no excuse for those that contributed to where we are today, by voting for Stein over the
still_one
Jul 2019
#121
He admits the mistake and let's not forget that he and Barack ended it 8 years later:
ucrdem
Jul 2019
#100
"'US forces are needed here.' After 15 years, fight in Iraq not over March 20, 2018 "
Kaleva
Jul 2019
#108
It's disqualifyingly poor judgment (in believing GWB), or he's dissembling (in claiming deception).
RockRaven
Jul 2019
#101
many were, the only SINGLE person who could have impacted this WAS COLIN POWELL and he
beachbum bob
Jul 2019
#111
Votes matter, going along with the crowd should not be a factor with something this important.
JudyM
Jul 2019
#114
That's the one thing I fear about Biden - he like to be liked and seems to have a tendency
walkingman
Jul 2019
#126