Democratic Primaries

LongtimeAZDem

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68. It's relevant. It shouldn't be, I agree, but it is. A telegenic candidate has had a better chance

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:03 AM

Mar 2019

ever since Kennedy debated Nixon.

It's worse for women, but it's true for men as well; Bruce Babbit should have never changed from glasses to contacts, and Paul Simon's appearance was comic fodder.

It mattered with HRC, and the right wing went nuts for Sarah Palin until she started talking; they've already noticed Gabbard. It's a plus for Harris, and it's a strike against some other well-qualified qualified candidates.

No, it's not fair; yes, it shouldn't matter. But let's not be naive, please.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I think it's interesting that, on DU, in this Democratic Primaries Forum, [View all] MineralMan Mar 2019 OP

the stat that counts is that 83% do NOT choose her as first choice nt msongs Mar 2019 #1

Actually, I don't think that's necessarily true. MineralMan Mar 2019 #2

Wow, that's some serious (((spin))) job you've got going there. SFnomad Mar 2019 #9

50% are undecided crazycatlady Mar 2019 #16

I like to think 98% or so are "undecided" and some just Hortensis Mar 2019 #32

I just attended a conference about working on the presidential campaigns crazycatlady Mar 2019 #33

And that's a group of serious people. Hortensis Mar 2019 #41

I think that without knowing the total N of how many DUers this represents, it is beyond meaningless hlthe2b Mar 2019 #3

That's true. We don't know the actual raw numbers. MineralMan Mar 2019 #4

I like her a lot too... hlthe2b Mar 2019 #6

She's a very effective speaker. MineralMan Mar 2019 #8

I think in Kamalas case bigtree Mar 2019 #14

Very good points! MineralMan Mar 2019 #24

For one thing, DU is a whole lot whiter than the national Dem party electorate KitSileya Mar 2019 #11

I also think DU is older than the Dem electorate crazycatlady Mar 2019 #17

How were they driven off? What kind of posts?? nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #35

Just take a look at the African AMerican group over the past 4 years, and you'll get the answer. KitSileya Mar 2019 #40

I don't know how to look over 4 years of posts but I did skim... LAS14 Mar 2019 #46

No links, or I'm sure my post will be hidden. KitSileya Mar 2019 #64

Oh, wow... thanks. nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #81

+1... SidDithers Mar 2019 #42

Dem party is @3/4 white, very close to the U.S.'s 76%. Hortensis Mar 2019 #69

I'd be surprised if even 5% of the posts on DU KitSileya Mar 2019 #71

A tremendous shame if true, both things. Not to put down Hortensis Mar 2019 #79

DU is significantly more liberal than the Democratic Party average voter. Blue_true Mar 2019 #22

Actually really doubt that. It's probably a vocabulary issue. Hortensis Mar 2019 #45

My observation matches yours nt forklift Mar 2019 #66

'Interesting', . . . and important. empedocles Mar 2019 #5

Well, its importance is undetermined. MineralMan Mar 2019 #7

I would presume it means Kamala is popular with the DU crowd. comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #10

I think we're smarter and better informed. :P BooScout Mar 2019 #12

I could easily go to Harris. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #25

There's definitely something to be said for a prosecutor fighting Trump floppyboo Mar 2019 #13

imho tiredtoo Mar 2019 #15

50% remain undecided . . . peggysue2 Mar 2019 #18

Wow...the highest very low number among very low numbers Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #19

It's a metric. OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #20

Two types of preferences must be recognized. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2019 #21

Could also be that some posters who do have a preference are remaining... TwilightZone Mar 2019 #23

The lack of support doesn't really surprise me. Lancero Mar 2019 #29

I have noted that a number of member's posts do not seem to match their stated preference LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #26

That doesn't surprise me, really. MineralMan Mar 2019 #27

Hear, hear LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #28

"With a firebrand VP choice" mitch96 Mar 2019 #30

If Biden runs, it will be with the intention of holding office MineralMan Mar 2019 #31

Agree. nt Tipperary Mar 2019 #39

I think a lot of supporters of a particular candidate forklift Mar 2019 #65

I suspect that as well, and it's not just the "undecideds" LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #67

Number of supporters doesn't equal number of loudest supporters. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #34

That's very true. Actually, that's what got me thinking MineralMan Mar 2019 #38

One thing it means is that a lot of Kamala supporters are quiet people, who... LAS14 Mar 2019 #36

I don't have any actual count - just percentages of those who have made a choice. MineralMan Mar 2019 #37

maybe not posting ops bigtree Mar 2019 #48

It will get much busier. Guranteed. MineralMan Mar 2019 #49

It's not a dead forum at all. MineralMan Mar 2019 #50

Here's my problem The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #43

Uh, why? W_HAMILTON Mar 2019 #47

OK. MineralMan Mar 2019 #58

I think the fact undecided is crushing everyone badly means it's too early to draw firm conclusions. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #44

What I think is we have AWESOME candidates other than one, and ANY of them I would be PROUD Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #51

It is pretty interesting. spicysista Mar 2019 #52

She's cute and apparently handles herself well Maxheader Mar 2019 #53

Cute? Tipperary Mar 2019 #55

You beat me to it while I was typing. MineralMan Mar 2019 #59

Cute? Really? MineralMan Mar 2019 #56

Lol. Thank you. Tipperary Mar 2019 #60

It's relevant. It shouldn't be, I agree, but it is. A telegenic candidate has had a better chance LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #68

It's the word "cute" that is the problem. MineralMan Mar 2019 #70

I would have said "beautiful" or "attractive" , but then, I've been to chicken to bring it up LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #72

I would not have used any words that talked about appearance. MineralMan Mar 2019 #74

Oh, come on, I know all that. As I said, it shouldn't matter, but you and I are old enough LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #75

Biden has many advantages over Sanders, IMO. MineralMan Mar 2019 #76

OK, I won't argue the point anymore. But I'm dissapointed, TBH. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #77

Again. Thank you. Tipperary Mar 2019 #80

Pro-Bernie OPs outnumber others by 2:1 forklift Mar 2019 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Lancero Mar 2019 #63

I have a theory about why that may be, but it's not a very flattering one.... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #57

Pretty sure it's the same one I alluded to above LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #61

She's the only candidate I've donated to this cycle, but ecstatic Mar 2019 #62

I think the big revelation of this thread is that Sanders is only at 8%. Hortensis Mar 2019 #73

What message? KPN Mar 2019 #78