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not_the_one

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69. The only vote I ever regret was because of religious influence...

Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:04 PM

Jul 2019

I voted for one republican in my life, Gerald Ford, for two reasons...

I was VERY uncomfortable about "pastor" Jimmy Carter's outspoken religious beliefs. Having a "pastor" president would have been, to me, a mockery of the separation of church and state.

I was raised in an evangelical southern church and regurgitated all the dogma that was fed me, until I finally decided to think for myself. I have been an avowed atheist ever since.

Given my discomfort with Carter, I was VERY impressed with Betty Ford, and what she was doing to bring issues to the front that hadn't been addressed before. I felt that if Betty was whispering into Gerald's ear at night, he would always do the right thing. I could see her coming out as being supportive of gay rights.

(The pardon was prearranged, and I am sure Ford had no control over it. It was part of the deal by the GOP that was negotiated for Nixon to leave.)

Looking back, Jimmy Carter was probably the best man to ever hold the presidency, and actually personified a true Christian. I so regret not giving him my vote.

I am still a card carrying (well, IF we had cards to carry... ), avowed atheist, but feel that Mayor Pete is one of the few good, real Christians. He uses it as a personal guide for his life, and understands that others can find just as valid alternative paths to follow.

I can handle that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why I can't support Mayor Pete [View all] Cartoonist Jul 2019 OP

I take issue with that as well but will vote for him if he's the nominee (and doesn't chowder66 Jul 2019 #1

If he's the nominee radical noodle Jul 2019 #17

Yes. If he is the nominee and regarding tripping up, depending... it could be enough. chowder66 Jul 2019 #25

Can you name any Democratic president or nominee who wasn't quite open about belonging to a highplainsdem Jul 2019 #2

This! Amimnoch Jul 2019 #48

Proud to be Jewish iamthebandfanman Jul 2019 #72

You're right about Bernie. But I was asking about past presidents and presidential nominees, not highplainsdem Jul 2019 #85

I remain firm in my support of his candidacy... Moostache Jul 2019 #80

Whether or not he gets the nomination, I think it's extremely important, and helpful to highplainsdem Jul 2019 #87

I have no problem with it. I also agree that religion and government shouldn't mix, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #3

Well said, this atheist concurs ... nt mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #27

You so fine! 😊 sprinkleeninow Jul 2019 #52

So you won't be voting for anyone? brooklynite Jul 2019 #4

I have no problem with personal belief Cartoonist Jul 2019 #33

So you didn't vote for President Obama? brooklynite Jul 2019 #34

Of course I voted for Obama Cartoonist Jul 2019 #36

Zero of his policies have anything religious in content, I am an atheist to the bone, and have Celerity Jul 2019 #42

If he keeps it that way, fine. Cartoonist Jul 2019 #44

I have watched dozens upon dozens of hours of talks and speeches, have read a copious amount Celerity Jul 2019 #46

But you've already say you won't support him... brooklynite Jul 2019 #51

The only vote I ever regret was because of religious influence... not_the_one Jul 2019 #69

Great post. I echo what you say about Carter. redstateblues Jul 2019 #76

Any objective sources for that allegation? LanternWaste Jul 2019 #73

So you had a lot of reservations about Carter because of his religion? marylandblue Jul 2019 #53

I was OK with Carter Cartoonist Jul 2019 #57

Then you have no reason to doubt Buttigieg, unless you can demonstrate that marylandblue Jul 2019 #59

Sorry Cartoonist Jul 2019 #63

You can be uneasy as much as you want, you have no reason for it. marylandblue Jul 2019 #67

This was my first thought after I saw the OP, too. n/t Politicub Jul 2019 #65

I see him shaming the fundies, which is good BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #5

Actually, though i'm agnostic, I LOVE that he is doing that. Taking the RW fundy hypocrisy headon hlthe2b Jul 2019 #6

+1000 Meadowoak Jul 2019 #8

That was chintzy. Lefta Dissenter Jul 2019 #28

I do that myself... Mayor Pete is possibly the smartest person running for President lapfog_1 Jul 2019 #68

Well fucking good for you! leftofcool Jul 2019 #7

And how is that working? Cartoonist Jul 2019 #37

turn him loose in a debate with Pence, lolo.Also, the Never-Trumper Rethugs talk about being ashamed Celerity Jul 2019 #43

Oh Yes! Pete vs. Pence! Delish! floppyboo Jul 2019 #70

Has nothing to do with Republican politicians who won't change. marylandblue Jul 2019 #55

I'm a non believer but I don't take issue with him quoting the Bible tulipsandroses Jul 2019 #9

I agree. Let's elect candidates for whom FACTS - not fantasy - are of primary concern. stopbush Jul 2019 #10

Here are some facts leftofcool Jul 2019 #12

Medicare for All has to happen slowly. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #19

+1 Celerity Jul 2019 #45

I think you misunderstand him. Nt BootinUp Jul 2019 #11

Huh? I think Buttigieg would agree with you about separation of religion and government. There's KPN Jul 2019 #13

As a good as an excuse as any left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #14

Why do you do that? Why do you assume that people's.... LAS14 Jul 2019 #23

"Why do you assume that people's motives are other than what they say they are?" left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #29

Sorry, I don't understand your subject. As for the body of your post, LAS14 Jul 2019 #31

Bye left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #32

It's my only excuse Cartoonist Jul 2019 #38

So your problem is he's religious? FreeState Jul 2019 #49

No Cartoonist Jul 2019 #58

Again, what is precise measure of "too religious."? LanternWaste Jul 2019 #74

Quoting the Bible Cartoonist Jul 2019 #89

Your concern is noted wyldwolf Jul 2019 #15

It's past time the dems challenged the myth that the GOP is the party of God. CrispyQ Jul 2019 #16

For me, "reclaiming" the bible should not be a policy the president takes the lead on. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #18

Quoting the Bible or pointing out religious hypocrisy are not policies. marylandblue Jul 2019 #60

I don't think a president should do either of those, either. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #62

Too much focus on his personal issues. democratisphere Jul 2019 #20

Agreed that religion should play no official part, guillaumeb Jul 2019 #21

So far Cartoonist Jul 2019 #35

Agreed. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #41

He will NOT do that, ever. That is not who he is. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2019 #71

I assume you mean in the primaries? nt LAS14 Jul 2019 #22

Normally, I'd agree with you on that customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #24

Any mention of religion in politics is a big turnoff to me, but mtnsnake Jul 2019 #26

What about he sings Dave in VA Jul 2019 #30

I never liked that song Cartoonist Jul 2019 #39

I think a great song for him would be Celerity Jul 2019 #50

Here's my friend singing... Dave in VA Jul 2019 #40

+10000 Celerity Jul 2019 #47

He's trying to create/resurrect a "religious left" dalton99a Jul 2019 #54

You mean like this? MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #56

Bill Clinton quoted scripture when he accepted the nomination in 1992 Shrek Jul 2019 #61

Buttigieg has to run for president unlike any other person who has come before him. Politicub Jul 2019 #64

That's a solid reason BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #66

I don't go to church but respect Pete's marlakay Jul 2019 #75

+1... SidDithers Jul 2019 #77

So, Buttigieg is a theocrat? brooklynite Jul 2019 #86

In 1976 I said the same thing about Jimmy Carter. TygrBright Jul 2019 #78

That bugs me too Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2019 #79

he's calling out their hypocrisy more than anything nini Jul 2019 #81

I quote from the Bible quite often .. and I also quote Harry Crews, W. Faulkner and W. Shakespeare. DemoTex Jul 2019 #82

I recall my very anti-clerical, atheist granfather saying: rzemanfl Jul 2019 #83

Meh OneBro Jul 2019 #84

Mayor Pete has no intention of injecting secondwind Jul 2019 #88