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44. but you're castigating these folks for advocating for the rest of their rights
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:04 AM
Jul 2019

...and casting all sorts of aspersions on them because they pointed out Obama administration deported record numbers.

This is less of a political act for them than it is for their critics. No can argue that their lives are not still at risk and that the dangers to their lives and livelihoods are not still escalating. Yet, you're expecting them to give fealty to those record deportations, because they received timely, but ultimately inadequate protection.

Her DACA status is at risk, and it did not even cover her parents, so why should she stop advocating for what she believes? It's more than fair for her to express her doubts about a politician who failed to adequately protect her and her family, for whatever reason.

Clucking tongues and throwing mud at them for pointing out the truth about those record deportations (and the continued risk and dangers her parents still face) is a political response in defense of some politician. It's crass, presidential politics and amazingly removed from the actual issue of her (and her family's) undocumented status.

This effort to demonize this necessary activism does NOTHING to challenge the threatening status quo. It seeks to downplay the very real jeopardy that the Obama administration was UNABLE to remove from these folks' lives. It makes all of the defense of the Obama administration's efforts into a political cudgel against those with the courage to stand up and speak out for the things that weren't accomplished.

I'm surprised and dismayed at the focus of this article and promotion of it here in defense of an effort that NO ONE can say was adequate to protect these people now at increased risk of deportation and family separation. DACA was not legislated and it's more than understandable for those still in crisis (with increasing risks) to not have confidence in those politicians who had not achieved permanent solutions for them in the past.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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The Trumpsters customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #1
just today bigtree Jul 2019 #2
which, of course, isn't a good comparison wyldwolf Jul 2019 #5
Exactly.. trying to compare the article to Cha Jul 2019 #11
This article has nothing to do with Cha Jul 2019 #10
I wonder who Santiago is backing for president. More importantly oasis Jul 2019 #3
Meet Catalina Santiago -- a DACA resident fighting Donald Trump for her undocumented parents. bigtree Jul 2019 #4
which doesn't answer Oasis's questions. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #6
oh, yes it does. bigtree Jul 2019 #7
Oh no it doesn't. Quote the lines where the questions are answered. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #8
That is the question. nt emmaverybo Jul 2019 #9
Must be Putin. Applegate Jul 2019 #31
"Research" often involves the asking of questions. oasis Jul 2019 #33
Last line says it all. Never mind what WAS done, it only matters what WASNT. Idiots. oldsoftie Jul 2019 #12
reminds me of folks pressing for civil rights bigtree Jul 2019 #13
my earlier reply stands wyldwolf Jul 2019 #14
i agree with your assessment. nt oldsoftie Jul 2019 #16
that happens, especially in campaigns bigtree Jul 2019 #17
No, in a certain corner of the left, it's a daily thing wyldwolf Jul 2019 #18
it's not that immigrant rights is a 'left' thing bigtree Jul 2019 #19
It's totally a left / right issue wyldwolf Jul 2019 #20
again, a little far afield of what this woman is advocating for bigtree Jul 2019 #22
Nope, she and those applauding her are a perfect case study for what I wrote. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #23
FDR was bold and progressive, but he left a lot of people out in the cold on Social Security: bigtree Jul 2019 #29
uh, yeah, that's the point wyldwolf Jul 2019 #42
but you're castigating these folks for advocating for the rest of their rights bigtree Jul 2019 #44
A major fallacy in that statement. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #45
you say their statement is an 'attack' bigtree Jul 2019 #46
and it is wyldwolf Jul 2019 #47
I posted an account of this woman's activism against Trump bigtree Jul 2019 #48
oh good for her. But she's attacking those who would help her, very counterproductive wyldwolf Jul 2019 #50
+1 Amazing quote from ER treestar Jul 2019 #55
Demanding more of Obama on this was absurd treestar Jul 2019 #54
That isn't the same treestar Jul 2019 #53
I wonder if they even acknowledged what Cha Jul 2019 #15
read the exchange above with Bigtree. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #49
People reaching for the moon better wake up and smell the coffee. oasis Jul 2019 #21
they might just think another candidate than the one you choose bigtree Jul 2019 #24
So you're saying they're purposely protesting the wrong target wyldwolf Jul 2019 #25
they obviously disagree with your analysis, 'purposely' assigning blame where they feel it belongs bigtree Jul 2019 #26
then they're misguided. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #43
seems to be just protesting rather than treestar Jul 2019 #56
Santiago needs to chill and stop trying to publicly embarrass oasis Jul 2019 #27
"our best chance" bigtree Jul 2019 #28
I hate that anyone had to get deported Cha Jul 2019 #34
I have sympathy for all in the DACA program and their relatives. oasis Jul 2019 #36
+1 treestar Jul 2019 #57
Someone on Medicare can protest the poor state of the American halth care system DBoon Jul 2019 #30
Protesters are "barking up the wrong tree" in this case. nt oasis Jul 2019 #37
but who should they protest? those who want to expand coverage or those who don't? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #40
focusing on the system treestar Jul 2019 #58
"Florida-based activist" ucrdem Jul 2019 #32
I don't get it? Cha Jul 2019 #35
Florida is ground zero for GOP astroturf and assorted dirty tricks ucrdem Jul 2019 #38
Oh thank you.. Cha Jul 2019 #39
That could be too. ucrdem Jul 2019 #41
If you have some evidence that this is some GOP operation, present it. Applegate Jul 2019 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Applegate Jul 2019 #52
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