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wyldwolf

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45. A major fallacy in that statement.

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:32 AM

Jul 2019

"These folks" don't currently have the rights they're seeking (or the ones you obviously think they do.)

At the end of the day, they're attacking the very person/people they NEED to help them attain these rights. That's very counterproductive and stupid.

This effort to demonize this necessary activism does NOTHING to challenge the threatening status quo.

The status quo is Republicans and SCOTUS blocking the necessary legislation. It isn't surprising some people have a problem wrapping their heads around that.

I'm surprised and dismayed at the focus of this article and promotion of it here in defense of an effort that NO ONE can say was adequate to protect these people now at increased risk of deportation and family separation.

I would say I'm surprised "progressives" fail to see the SCOTUS and Republican obstructionism that ties hands of the very people who have tried and are still trying to help. But I'm not. Par for the course on the activist left.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Immigration activist who protested Obama/Biden's immigration policies benefitted greatly from DACA [View all] wyldwolf Jul 2019 OP

The Trumpsters customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #1

just today bigtree Jul 2019 #2

which, of course, isn't a good comparison wyldwolf Jul 2019 #5

Exactly.. trying to compare the article to Cha Jul 2019 #11

This article has nothing to do with Cha Jul 2019 #10

I wonder who Santiago is backing for president. More importantly oasis Jul 2019 #3

Meet Catalina Santiago -- a DACA resident fighting Donald Trump for her undocumented parents. bigtree Jul 2019 #4

which doesn't answer Oasis's questions. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #6

oh, yes it does. bigtree Jul 2019 #7

Oh no it doesn't. Quote the lines where the questions are answered. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #8

That is the question. nt emmaverybo Jul 2019 #9

Must be Putin. Applegate Jul 2019 #31

"Research" often involves the asking of questions. oasis Jul 2019 #33

Last line says it all. Never mind what WAS done, it only matters what WASNT. Idiots. oldsoftie Jul 2019 #12

reminds me of folks pressing for civil rights bigtree Jul 2019 #13

my earlier reply stands wyldwolf Jul 2019 #14

i agree with your assessment. nt oldsoftie Jul 2019 #16

that happens, especially in campaigns bigtree Jul 2019 #17

No, in a certain corner of the left, it's a daily thing wyldwolf Jul 2019 #18

it's not that immigrant rights is a 'left' thing bigtree Jul 2019 #19

It's totally a left / right issue wyldwolf Jul 2019 #20

again, a little far afield of what this woman is advocating for bigtree Jul 2019 #22

Nope, she and those applauding her are a perfect case study for what I wrote. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #23

FDR was bold and progressive, but he left a lot of people out in the cold on Social Security: bigtree Jul 2019 #29

uh, yeah, that's the point wyldwolf Jul 2019 #42

but you're castigating these folks for advocating for the rest of their rights bigtree Jul 2019 #44

A major fallacy in that statement. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #45

you say their statement is an 'attack' bigtree Jul 2019 #46

and it is wyldwolf Jul 2019 #47

I posted an account of this woman's activism against Trump bigtree Jul 2019 #48

oh good for her. But she's attacking those who would help her, very counterproductive wyldwolf Jul 2019 #50

+1 Amazing quote from ER treestar Jul 2019 #55

Demanding more of Obama on this was absurd treestar Jul 2019 #54

That isn't the same treestar Jul 2019 #53

I wonder if they even acknowledged what Cha Jul 2019 #15

read the exchange above with Bigtree. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #49

People reaching for the moon better wake up and smell the coffee. oasis Jul 2019 #21

they might just think another candidate than the one you choose bigtree Jul 2019 #24

So you're saying they're purposely protesting the wrong target wyldwolf Jul 2019 #25

they obviously disagree with your analysis, 'purposely' assigning blame where they feel it belongs bigtree Jul 2019 #26

then they're misguided. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #43

seems to be just protesting rather than treestar Jul 2019 #56

Santiago needs to chill and stop trying to publicly embarrass oasis Jul 2019 #27

"our best chance" bigtree Jul 2019 #28

I hate that anyone had to get deported Cha Jul 2019 #34

I have sympathy for all in the DACA program and their relatives. oasis Jul 2019 #36

+1 treestar Jul 2019 #57

Someone on Medicare can protest the poor state of the American halth care system DBoon Jul 2019 #30

Protesters are "barking up the wrong tree" in this case. nt oasis Jul 2019 #37

but who should they protest? those who want to expand coverage or those who don't? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #40

focusing on the system treestar Jul 2019 #58

"Florida-based activist" ucrdem Jul 2019 #32

I don't get it? Cha Jul 2019 #35

Florida is ground zero for GOP astroturf and assorted dirty tricks ucrdem Jul 2019 #38

Oh thank you.. Cha Jul 2019 #39

That could be too. ucrdem Jul 2019 #41

If you have some evidence that this is some GOP operation, present it. Applegate Jul 2019 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Applegate Jul 2019 #52