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SouthernProgressive

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Reply to bluewater (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:07 PM

Jul 2019

Seems you agree that Sanders isn't being straight with the American people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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AP FACT CHECK: Savings from Sanders' Medicare plan dubious [View all] SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 OP

Every study, including the ones cited in the OP, estimate that M4A would save money. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #1

This is too funny. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #3

Show me a study that shows M4A would be more expensive than our current healthcare system. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #6

There is no study in the op or article that shows he is wrong. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #7

The OP/article is dubious. Nice try. KPN Jul 2019 #10

AP Fake News! nt SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #12

No, just a lack of any definitive substantiation. KPN Jul 2019 #32

Yep. ehrnst Jul 2019 #46

No they do not. Come on. How COULD they when its details haven't Hortensis Jul 2019 #21

You would have to ask the people who conducted the studies. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #22

Where's an estimate from the General Accounting Office Hortensis Jul 2019 #23

KR for Reality Check! Cha Jul 2019 #2

...this article is dubious. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #4

Not too far right for Sanders. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #8

He cites that study specifically BECAUSE it's from a right wing source. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #11

The author that Sanders likes to go to says they are mischaracterizing the study. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #14

Their study is clear. Commissioned by right wingers but run independantly. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #15

So it's an independent study? Not a right wing study? NT SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #16

I never said it was a right wing study. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #17

"Commissioned by right wingers but run independantly" Lordquinton Jul 2019 #43

So right wingers were honest enough to publish it, but not honest enough to explain it? marylandblue Jul 2019 #36

Bingo. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #49

Interesting how many who support the Mercatus claim try to rip apart the Urban Institute as bogus ehrnst Jul 2019 #48

spending would be $3.9 trillion under Medicare for all, versus $3.8 trillion now bluewater Jul 2019 #5

+1 SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #9

Seems I agree that medicare for all makes a lot of sense. bluewater Jul 2019 #13

"people will actually have health care they can afford to use" Lordquinton Jul 2019 #44

It sounds like you are the one cherry picking. ehrnst Jul 2019 #47

Until someone provides creditable cost estimates of what 43, 44, etc., year old man/woman will pay - Hoyt Jul 2019 #18

I think they have the common sense to know that single payer Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #19

If we got rid of insurance companies today, at best our "premium" cost would drop 6 - 10%. Hoyt Jul 2019 #24

It is true some will spend more and some will spend less. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #25

Drug costs are about 8% of our health care costs. Cut it in half, and you still aren't going to Hoyt Jul 2019 #27

I just think it is doing far more than other plans can Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #29

I think we are close to doing something worthwhile, and Sanders deserves credit for encouraging it. Hoyt Jul 2019 #33

Agreed. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #35

That's not true. Germany and Switzerland do not have single payer. marylandblue Jul 2019 #37

I stand corrected. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #39

Yes, we are the only one without universal coverage, but marylandblue Jul 2019 #40

And it is appreciated Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #41

The ACA is what you describe. And that was not enough for Sanders. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #50

"Pay a little more" ehrnst Jul 2019 #51

Just slogans no real plans nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #20

Good way to put it. Hoyt Jul 2019 #28

Actually the plan is quite extensive Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #31

Considering Biden's plan is basically Obama's original legislation, it's a well established plan. marylandblue Jul 2019 #38

I have a plan to go to the moon on my bicycle NYMinute Jul 2019 #42

Bernie math. Not the first time either still_one Jul 2019 #26

M4A, really?--"Whatever may be our wishes or inclinations, or dictates oasis Jul 2019 #30

How are people going to be for or against Medicare for All Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #34

K&R Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #45

Societal Savings are not tax revenues and this plan will not work in the real world Gothmog Jul 2019 #52