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Hoyt

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6. Yeah, but there are all these other costs that will be reduced. I've been hearing that since 1977,

Reply to Peacetrain (Original post)

Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:35 PM

Jul 2019

yet those savings never seem to materialize.

I don't really care about health insurers going out of business. That's just tough, they've had a good run.

I do care about getting into something that gets cut every time the political group in charge needs to find some money to spend elsewhere, wants to punish some group of people, our individual costs go up when healthcare providers want more money, etc.

Don't have the answer, but we do need to get everyone covered.

Until candidates come out with a detailed plan -- including exactly what the average Joe/Jane or 30, 45, 50, 55, etc., will pay in premiums, taxes, and any cost-sharing -- it's all BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Can we talk just a second about the side costs of Medicare for All [View all] Peacetrain Jul 2019 OP

This is true. Medicare is great but if you don't buy supplemental coverage The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #1

So, if you are a senior with Medicare and a supplemental plan, stopbush Jul 2019 #7

Depending on the specific plans. question everything Jul 2019 #18

Many other countries have seemed to work out the bugs. No, it won't be cheap, Firestorm49 Jul 2019 #2

Nobody anywhere has worked out the bugs completely. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #5

The subsidies that people receive for the ACA have to be paid for too. I don't remember MFA Autumn Jul 2019 #15

And what about the payroll contribution 100% of workers currently pay into Medicare stopbush Jul 2019 #3

And that $135 is a minimum. If your income is higher spooky3 Jul 2019 #8

Many people I talk to who advocate MFA don't know that Medicare has premiums. stopbush Jul 2019 #11

M4A would overhaul Medicare. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #4

Yeah, but there are all these other costs that will be reduced. I've been hearing that since 1977, Hoyt Jul 2019 #6

Agree. Without the details, it's BS. stopbush Jul 2019 #9

Here's the M4A bill released earlier this year. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #10

I didn't find any real details in there on how this is paid for. stopbush Jul 2019 #13

I guess you are going to have to point out where that Bill says what it's going to cost in aggregate Hoyt Jul 2019 #14

I would also like to hear Andy823 Jul 2019 #12

Under MFA you can still purchase supplemental insurance, just as we do now. Autumn Jul 2019 #16

What about Andy823 Jul 2019 #19

I would think we still pay for it. Like the ACA there will be subsidies only with MFA Autumn Jul 2019 #20

There is a big problem with employer provided insurance. shraby Jul 2019 #17

Under Bernie Sanders' Medicare for All Act of 2019 Eric J in MN Jul 2019 #21

Forget Medicare for All Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #22

What we are looking at is being done for two reasons. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #23