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qazplm135

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55. it's a POLICY argument

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:01 PM

Jul 2019

you can argue whether it is true, or not true...whether your plan or his plan is right or not right...all of that is just fine.

Attacking a POLICY is NOT the same as effectively saying your candidate is just like Trump...can't tell em apart.

One is policy, one is personal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie Sanders' Facebook page has posted a "Who Said It: Trump or Biden?" video. [View all] Music Man Jul 2019 OP

calling tom perez. paging tom perez. mopinko Jul 2019 #1

+ 100 n/t MBS Jul 2019 #4

I thought it interesting. They attributed accurate quotes to the correct people. Autumn Jul 2019 #2

"I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell." - Harry S. Truman Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #22

Yes it's so unfair and dirty to quote what a politician actually says. Autumn Jul 2019 #28

except saying Biden's plan is like Trump's plan is a lie qazplm135 Jul 2019 #33

They're not comparing plans. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #39

see that's the problem qazplm135 Jul 2019 #51

Well, maybe Biden should reconsider his talking points when arguing against M4A. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #57

lol yeah see how persuasive that argument is qazplm135 Jul 2019 #66

"Medicare goes away as you know. All the Medicare you have is gone" Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #53

it's a POLICY argument qazplm135 Jul 2019 #55

That quote is not a policy argument. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #59

He's already at full kitchen sink and the voting doesn't start for months. ucrdem Jul 2019 #3

No, "kitchen sink" is fear mongering MFA by saying it will take away Medicare. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #25

Disqualifying. ANYONE but BS 2020. Amimnoch Jul 2019 #5

You just taking this OP's word without expecting linked proof? He is running WITH the Dems, you know ancianita Jul 2019 #9

Thank you for advising me how I may feel. Amimnoch Jul 2019 #14

Don't cave to blaming "surrogates." The way Dems lost last time was through surrogate infighting. ancianita Jul 2019 #19

I totally agree with you.. and also that you're Cha Jul 2019 #76

I've seen this news before.. it just wasn't on FB Cha Jul 2019 #75

+1000 nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #18

Cannot find it on Bernie's Facebook page, 40 posts dating back to July 17. So. Why not link it. ancianita Jul 2019 #6

Here: Music Man Jul 2019 #7

Conned through Facebook again? tirebiter Jul 2019 #67

Conned? OilemFirchen Jul 2019 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jul 2019 #10

Here's A Question/s For Nina Me. Jul 2019 #8

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #12

Because my life doesn't revolve around this website. Music Man Jul 2019 #13

I see the irony. The constructive liberal thing is not to drop online participation but correct it. ancianita Jul 2019 #16

... Me. Jul 2019 #65

+1000 nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #21

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #73

Same Old Shit. dalton99a Jul 2019 #11

I doubt that this stunt will work Gothmog Jul 2019 #15

Sanders should fire Turner for hurting his campaign integrity. This stunt won't sway Biden supporter ancianita Jul 2019 #17

Quoting and attributing to Biden what he actually said is the problem and hurts Bernie's campaign? Autumn Jul 2019 #26

it's intended qazplm135 Jul 2019 #34

No it's not. It a primary campaign and that is where candidates highlight their difference from Autumn Jul 2019 #38

saying Biden's plan is different or worse than mine qazplm135 Jul 2019 #48

You don't think Biden was preaching to his choir when he said that about MFA? Autumn Jul 2019 #47

uh no qazplm135 Jul 2019 #50

Too bad that's not what Biden said. Autumn Jul 2019 #54

it is what he said qazplm135 Jul 2019 #56

Except Biden did not say "that plan won't work, ours will." he said more than that. Autumn Jul 2019 #62

I hear you and get it. The next step of "anyone but Bernie" is what I address. That's not going to ancianita Jul 2019 #35

I don't know of anyone who is "anyone but Bernie" so addressing that is a waste of our time. Autumn Jul 2019 #44

Yes, you do. #9 I've screenshot it. ancianita Jul 2019 #49

I'm anyone but Bernie OR Biden qazplm135 Jul 2019 #52

You made a wrong assumption. I don't know who that poster is and I don't read every post. Autumn Jul 2019 #63

well peops that say they wont support the democratic nominee if its bernie are idiots questionseverything Jul 2019 #82

Sanders wukk NEVER fire Turner for hurting his campaign integrity. She is the dirty politician trueblue2007 Jul 2019 #79

But he won't. Cha Jul 2019 #83

It is so dishonest NYMinute Jul 2019 #20

Pretty much. When crunch time comes, she loses political party perspective & hurts the liberal cause ancianita Jul 2019 #24

Nina Turner's deck NYMinute Jul 2019 #27

If you unliked the page NYMinute Jul 2019 #23

I unliked his page after seeing the video Music Man Jul 2019 #29

And you re-litigate 2016, aware or not. Evolution of party is more important. If you can't do that ancianita Jul 2019 #32

It's not just Nina Turner, though. Music Man Jul 2019 #36

NO. You don't know that. Lots of Democrats who've run have been derailed by surrogate infighting. ancianita Jul 2019 #40

You can make the connection in this case because his *campaign-affiliated page* posted it. Music Man Jul 2019 #45

That's your interpretation of my questioning your not having factual backup with a LINK. Then ancianita Jul 2019 #60

Nowhere did I say that your asking for a link was an ad hominem attack. Music Man Jul 2019 #70

Not to mention that you also found fault with me being Undecided. Music Man Jul 2019 #71

Glad to see you edited your OP. ancianita Jul 2019 #30

To summarize the whole OP Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #31

In fairness, a "Bernie or Trump?" video could also be made. JaneQPublic Jul 2019 #37

NOT in fairness to equate their values or their motives or their donors or their audience. No. ancianita Jul 2019 #42

ANY one can say any phrases. Depends on context and intent. Link Bernie saying these, by the way. ancianita Jul 2019 #46

What is BS's voting record on Russia sanctions? N/T lapucelle Jul 2019 #64

Google is your friend. JaneQPublic Jul 2019 #68

Wasn't there also a Russia sanctions vote last January? lapucelle Jul 2019 #69

YES! Now THIS is how you secure your fourth place status! wyldwolf Jul 2019 #41

That's funny. Probably, along with whiny the system is rigged against him and he is being cheated. silentEcho Jul 2019 #43

Are we re-living 2016? Iliyah Jul 2019 #58

Is Sanders running again? I think we are. silentEcho Jul 2019 #61

No matter what candidate you support this kind of video does nothing to get people to switch. Agschmid Jul 2019 #72

Amateurish and trashy Politicub Jul 2019 #74

He's not making new friends this way Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #77

Sanders would get booted from websites with TOS against disparaging fellow Democrats aeromanKC Jul 2019 #78

It's almost as if he's not a Democrat. dem4decades Jul 2019 #81

He is not a Democrat. He says so himself, repeatedly. silentEcho Jul 2019 #85

Bernie promised not to go negative Gustafo Jul 2019 #84

This tactic/stunt will not help sanders Gothmog Jul 2019 #86

I'm unsure why he is going after Biden so hard Trenzalore Jul 2019 #87