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HerbChestnut

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57. Well, maybe Biden should reconsider his talking points when arguing against M4A.

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:06 PM

Jul 2019

Right now, Biden is not comparing policy. His strategy out of the gate was to use misinformation to try and scare people out of supporting M4A, which is the same tactic used by the GOP, Trump, etc. The Sanders campaign is just calling it out for what it is.

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Bernie Sanders' Facebook page has posted a "Who Said It: Trump or Biden?" video. [View all] Music Man Jul 2019 OP

calling tom perez. paging tom perez. mopinko Jul 2019 #1

+ 100 n/t MBS Jul 2019 #4

I thought it interesting. They attributed accurate quotes to the correct people. Autumn Jul 2019 #2

"I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell." - Harry S. Truman Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #22

Yes it's so unfair and dirty to quote what a politician actually says. Autumn Jul 2019 #28

except saying Biden's plan is like Trump's plan is a lie qazplm135 Jul 2019 #33

They're not comparing plans. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #39

see that's the problem qazplm135 Jul 2019 #51

Well, maybe Biden should reconsider his talking points when arguing against M4A. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #57

lol yeah see how persuasive that argument is qazplm135 Jul 2019 #66

"Medicare goes away as you know. All the Medicare you have is gone" Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #53

it's a POLICY argument qazplm135 Jul 2019 #55

That quote is not a policy argument. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #59

He's already at full kitchen sink and the voting doesn't start for months. ucrdem Jul 2019 #3

No, "kitchen sink" is fear mongering MFA by saying it will take away Medicare. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #25

Disqualifying. ANYONE but BS 2020. Amimnoch Jul 2019 #5

You just taking this OP's word without expecting linked proof? He is running WITH the Dems, you know ancianita Jul 2019 #9

Thank you for advising me how I may feel. Amimnoch Jul 2019 #14

Don't cave to blaming "surrogates." The way Dems lost last time was through surrogate infighting. ancianita Jul 2019 #19

I totally agree with you.. and also that you're Cha Jul 2019 #76

I've seen this news before.. it just wasn't on FB Cha Jul 2019 #75

+1000 nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #18

Cannot find it on Bernie's Facebook page, 40 posts dating back to July 17. So. Why not link it. ancianita Jul 2019 #6

Here: Music Man Jul 2019 #7

Conned through Facebook again? tirebiter Jul 2019 #67

Conned? OilemFirchen Jul 2019 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jul 2019 #10

Here's A Question/s For Nina Me. Jul 2019 #8

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #12

Because my life doesn't revolve around this website. Music Man Jul 2019 #13

I see the irony. The constructive liberal thing is not to drop online participation but correct it. ancianita Jul 2019 #16

... Me. Jul 2019 #65

+1000 nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #21

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #73

Same Old Shit. dalton99a Jul 2019 #11

I doubt that this stunt will work Gothmog Jul 2019 #15

Sanders should fire Turner for hurting his campaign integrity. This stunt won't sway Biden supporter ancianita Jul 2019 #17

Quoting and attributing to Biden what he actually said is the problem and hurts Bernie's campaign? Autumn Jul 2019 #26

it's intended qazplm135 Jul 2019 #34

No it's not. It a primary campaign and that is where candidates highlight their difference from Autumn Jul 2019 #38

saying Biden's plan is different or worse than mine qazplm135 Jul 2019 #48

You don't think Biden was preaching to his choir when he said that about MFA? Autumn Jul 2019 #47

uh no qazplm135 Jul 2019 #50

Too bad that's not what Biden said. Autumn Jul 2019 #54

it is what he said qazplm135 Jul 2019 #56

Except Biden did not say "that plan won't work, ours will." he said more than that. Autumn Jul 2019 #62

I hear you and get it. The next step of "anyone but Bernie" is what I address. That's not going to ancianita Jul 2019 #35

I don't know of anyone who is "anyone but Bernie" so addressing that is a waste of our time. Autumn Jul 2019 #44

Yes, you do. #9 I've screenshot it. ancianita Jul 2019 #49

I'm anyone but Bernie OR Biden qazplm135 Jul 2019 #52

You made a wrong assumption. I don't know who that poster is and I don't read every post. Autumn Jul 2019 #63

well peops that say they wont support the democratic nominee if its bernie are idiots questionseverything Jul 2019 #82

Sanders wukk NEVER fire Turner for hurting his campaign integrity. She is the dirty politician trueblue2007 Jul 2019 #79

But he won't. Cha Jul 2019 #83

It is so dishonest NYMinute Jul 2019 #20

Pretty much. When crunch time comes, she loses political party perspective & hurts the liberal cause ancianita Jul 2019 #24

Nina Turner's deck NYMinute Jul 2019 #27

If you unliked the page NYMinute Jul 2019 #23

I unliked his page after seeing the video Music Man Jul 2019 #29

And you re-litigate 2016, aware or not. Evolution of party is more important. If you can't do that ancianita Jul 2019 #32

It's not just Nina Turner, though. Music Man Jul 2019 #36

NO. You don't know that. Lots of Democrats who've run have been derailed by surrogate infighting. ancianita Jul 2019 #40

You can make the connection in this case because his *campaign-affiliated page* posted it. Music Man Jul 2019 #45

That's your interpretation of my questioning your not having factual backup with a LINK. Then ancianita Jul 2019 #60

Nowhere did I say that your asking for a link was an ad hominem attack. Music Man Jul 2019 #70

Not to mention that you also found fault with me being Undecided. Music Man Jul 2019 #71

Glad to see you edited your OP. ancianita Jul 2019 #30

To summarize the whole OP Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #31

In fairness, a "Bernie or Trump?" video could also be made. JaneQPublic Jul 2019 #37

NOT in fairness to equate their values or their motives or their donors or their audience. No. ancianita Jul 2019 #42

ANY one can say any phrases. Depends on context and intent. Link Bernie saying these, by the way. ancianita Jul 2019 #46

What is BS's voting record on Russia sanctions? N/T lapucelle Jul 2019 #64

Google is your friend. JaneQPublic Jul 2019 #68

Wasn't there also a Russia sanctions vote last January? lapucelle Jul 2019 #69

YES! Now THIS is how you secure your fourth place status! wyldwolf Jul 2019 #41

That's funny. Probably, along with whiny the system is rigged against him and he is being cheated. silentEcho Jul 2019 #43

Are we re-living 2016? Iliyah Jul 2019 #58

Is Sanders running again? I think we are. silentEcho Jul 2019 #61

No matter what candidate you support this kind of video does nothing to get people to switch. Agschmid Jul 2019 #72

Amateurish and trashy Politicub Jul 2019 #74

He's not making new friends this way Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #77

Sanders would get booted from websites with TOS against disparaging fellow Democrats aeromanKC Jul 2019 #78

It's almost as if he's not a Democrat. dem4decades Jul 2019 #81

He is not a Democrat. He says so himself, repeatedly. silentEcho Jul 2019 #85

Bernie promised not to go negative Gustafo Jul 2019 #84

This tactic/stunt will not help sanders Gothmog Jul 2019 #86

I'm unsure why he is going after Biden so hard Trenzalore Jul 2019 #87