Democratic Primaries

highplainsdem

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38. Demsrule86 didn't say that Biden was the "only one who can win." You misread.

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:33 PM

Jul 2019

However, the post you're criticizing was accurate in pointing out more of the Dems polled felt Biden had a good chance of beating Trump than felt the same about other Democratic candidates.

And besides Biden usually leading, and usually by a wide margin, when Dems are polled about which of our candidates they think are most electable, there are the polls of head-to-head match-ups against Trump. Polls that include independents and Republicans as well as Democrats.

Biden tends to do better against Trump in those polls, too. Some of which show one or a few other Democratic candidates would also beat Trump, but some that show he's the only Democrat who beat Trump in that poll.

The same can't be said about any of his rivals, at this point.

The polls might change.

But since none of us have access to future polls, we have to consider the poll data we have now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Kamala Harris considered "Most Strong" among Dem contenders in new CBSNews Battleground Tracker Poll [View all] bigtree Jul 2019 OP

What does "most strong" mean? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2019 #1

"Among Democrats." stopbush Jul 2019 #2

She's one of my top two candidates- it's the vague phrasing of the poll that annoys me Fiendish Thingy Jul 2019 #5

I see it as a way to flesh out the 'electability' question bigtree Jul 2019 #7

Bigtree, the Battleground poll ASKED an electability question, and Biden was way ahead highplainsdem Jul 2019 #10

what if 'experience' becomes less important bigtree Jul 2019 #15

I'm not suggesting the electability numbers can't change. I'm just pointing out that the question highplainsdem Jul 2019 #16

it's about an important element of that question bigtree Jul 2019 #20

pretty clear bigtree Jul 2019 #3

So not strong in voters support, but strong in aggressively fighting Trump and for Americans? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2019 #6

sure bigtree Jul 2019 #8

that is the way I took it and it is exactly why I am leaning strongly toward her. CTyankee Jul 2019 #60

"Strong" means being able to beat Trump's ass to hell and back. bluewater Jul 2019 #4

No, it doesn't. The poll asked specifically what voters thought of individual candidates' chances highplainsdem Jul 2019 #11

can he beat him with experience, one of the best attributes he measures in? bigtree Jul 2019 #17

She can do the most pushups? DesertRat Jul 2019 #19

in high heels bigtree Jul 2019 #21

... DesertRat Jul 2019 #22

I agree with Harris topping the list but I think Buttigieg couild end up being seen as #2 on mtnsnake Jul 2019 #9

This apparently refers to toughness as an image, and it's an image Harris cultivates. It does NOT highplainsdem Jul 2019 #12

Exactly! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #13

that was a generic question bigtree Jul 2019 #14

Biden is less forceful towards women than he is towards men - something that should be admired. Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #23

No, electability is the more specific question. You can see just from the replies to your OP that highplainsdem Jul 2019 #24

I think perceived strength against Trump is more a sustainable, productive attribute bigtree Jul 2019 #25

The question was NOT "perceived strength against Trump." Why are you twisting highplainsdem Jul 2019 #26

what is electability? bigtree Jul 2019 #28

LOL! Are you suggesting it's wrong for voters to be aware of polls? highplainsdem Jul 2019 #30

no I'm suggesting you're hanging on a tenuous thread bigtree Jul 2019 #31

It isn't a tenuous thread. It's a lead Biden's maintained for months. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #32

True that!!! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #33

feedback loop bigtree Jul 2019 #34

Cool! k&r DesertRat Jul 2019 #18

I agree she comes on strong. Too strong for me. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #27

+1,000,000 Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #29

Public Defenders are strong also. and a woman is going to have to come off stronger JI7 Jul 2019 #40

Harris is very impressive. eom guillaumeb Jul 2019 #35

Opinion pure and simple when you look at the numbers of who is more electable ....who can win Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #36

And it's your opinion Andy823 Jul 2019 #37

Demsrule86 didn't say that Biden was the "only one who can win." You misread. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #38

Well Andy823 Jul 2019 #45

I don't think I've ever said that Biden's the only one who can win. I've pointed out the polls highplainsdem Jul 2019 #49

I don't worry about being united Andy823 Jul 2019 #52

based on the numbers ...he has the best chance in WI, MI and PA...the 'poll' in this post is Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #55

Numbers will change Andy823 Jul 2019 #58

It is not the numbers of Democrats polled...it is those votes we need in WI, MI and PA... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #59

Btw, that 32% number saying she's "strong" is mostly from California, which had that at 39% highplainsdem Jul 2019 #39

strange bigtree Jul 2019 #42

Harris scored the lowest of all 5 candidates when asked whether a candidate was authentic. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #43

+1,000,000 ucrdem Jul 2019 #57

Again, I think the poll's question about who can beat Trump already answered that question, and highplainsdem Jul 2019 #44

they think Biden can beat Trump bigtree Jul 2019 #48

Again, the poll question you keep going back to did NOT say "forceful against Trump" or highplainsdem Jul 2019 #50

Seems like some here Andy823 Jul 2019 #46

Strongest... fierce... and ready to take on Trump! Autumn Jul 2019 #41

Exactly! nt Andy823 Jul 2019 #47

My honest opinion Andy823 Jul 2019 #51

What kind of poll is THIS? democratisphere Jul 2019 #53

Biden leads in most other categories madville Jul 2019 #54

+1000 Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #56

I think it is a metric: who can be strongest against Trump. CTyankee Jul 2019 #61

That's how I read it too. nt DesertRat Jul 2019 #62

No, it isn't that. The poll had a question about how likely candidates are to beat Trump, and Biden highplainsdem Jul 2019 #63

So she's strong but not authentic? CTyankee Jul 2019 #64

Honestly, I'm guessing most people responding to that part of the poll weren't sure what they were highplainsdem Jul 2019 #65