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TwilightZone

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58. Actually, some of them do.

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:10 PM

Mar 2019

The Democratic Socialists of America do propose to overthrow capitalism and install socialism. Some of them don't think Bernie is socialist *enough* to accomplish that goal.

"Yes, if we throw ourselves into the Bernie 2020 campaign, we may be able to recruit more members, perhaps thousands. We have to ask ourselves, however, what sort of an organization will we be recruiting them to? The Bernie 2020 campaign will have a profound influence on DSA, emphasizing political work over building the social movements. We will find that we have created an organizational culture dominated by illusions of influencing or capturing the Democratic Party, rather than developing strategies for the destruction of the two-party system and the overthrow of capitalism"

https://www.dsausa.org/weekly/a-dialogue-should-dsa-endorse-bernie-sanders-before-the-convention/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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O'Rourke and Biden, signaling presidential bids, would infuse centrism into Democratic field (WP) [View all] dalton99a Mar 2019 OP

Beto is a centrist? TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #1

Voters are demanding a more progressive agenda, as Bernie is advocating... centrism is SO yesterday. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #2

Liberalism is progressive, socialism is not. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #4

Democratic Socialism, i.e., Social Security, Medicare, Medicade, veteran healthcare programs... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #12

Repeating the Big Lie that Social Security and Medicare are "Democratic Socialism" CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #19

I do not think that sanders is electable Gothmog Mar 2019 #32

FYI, Bernie capitalizes his last name... it's "Sanders" InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #73

You do know that New Hampshire and Iowa do not represent the demographics of the party??? Gothmog Mar 2019 #78

New Hampshire has 1.2% Black residents, Iowa 3.3%. Both have white populations about 95%. George II Mar 2019 #83

You cannot win the Democratic nomination without strong African American support Gothmog Mar 2019 #84

Oh brother! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #86

As one who followed Betos run, Hes the only one that could possibly win TEXAS state wide IMHO Old Vet Mar 2019 #90

Joe Biden's And Bernie Sanders's Support Isn't Just About Name Recognition Gothmog Mar 2019 #87

Well, good thing nobody is advocating socialism. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #13

LOL. Sure, Democratic Socialists aren't advocating for Socialism. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #20

Or maybe haven't heard anything. JudyM Mar 2019 #36

They do not want the US to be a full socialist country. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #45

Actually, some of them do. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #58

And they have who, exactly, running in the primary? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #63

Your assertion was that democratic socialists don't want a society based on socialism. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #67

DSA has voted to endorse Sanders. /nt radius777 Mar 2019 #70

Well said!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #76

I love what Bernie is advocating as a true blue Democratic Socialist... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #75

Sanders is progressive Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #41

Bernie's the best representative of progressivism the Democrats have... so damn proud of the InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #77

His decades old policy positions are becoming Democratic mainstream Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #80

What has Sanders actually done as far as "leadership"? George II Mar 2019 #85

Tell that to Sema Hernandez. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #9

No they're not. On what do you base your statement? George II Mar 2019 #26

Who voted? Renew Deal Mar 2019 #27

And if Sanders is the nominee, what will you do? Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #42

We'e been through this before. Renew Deal Mar 2019 #44

You are ducking the question Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #48

I will support the Democratic nominee Renew Deal Mar 2019 #53

Awesomeness Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #56

Vote for Bernie... what else?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #88

No kidding workinclasszero Mar 2019 #64

Heard him a handful of times. He is a progressive. WaPo Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #7

I want the Team who can beat the anti-Christ. Cha Mar 2019 #3

+1 sandensea Mar 2019 #30

"banana-flavored, pseudo-fascism" Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #49

Why, thank you. sandensea Mar 2019 #51

I've always said he is too much of a buffoon to be a Hitler Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #66

I'm glad that a pro-Medicare for all candidate can be called "centrist." David__77 Mar 2019 #5

In spite of his voting record, I don't think O'Rourke will run as or be perceived as a centrist. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #6

He ran as a Centrist against Cruz Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #50

He also called for Trump's impeachment. /nt radius777 Mar 2019 #68

And kudos on him for that Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #69

Articles on Beto suggest he is not an ideologue andym Mar 2019 #8

He lost to Ted Cruz Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #43

It's a sad day that Beto and Biden are considered centrist in 2020 BluegrassDem Mar 2019 #10

JFK would be called a socialist today. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #14

SS and Medicare were called Socialist. Heck even Obamacare - the least socialist Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #23

... Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #47

Neither would be called socialists today. George II Mar 2019 #28

90% top marginal tax rate? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #46

Those were depression era policies radius777 Mar 2019 #71

Not interested in anyone weak enough RandiFan1290 Mar 2019 #11

I can't imagine Biden inspiring anyone under age of 35 to vote for him. Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #15

WAPO: Polls say Biden's age isn't necessarily hurting him with young Democrats emulatorloo Mar 2019 #16

Midterm poll from 2018 isn't going to reflect the preference of young voters now that Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #21

That's your opinion, and it could well be wrong emulatorloo Mar 2019 #25

Oh thanks so much for telling me what my opinion is based on. Can you tell me what I'm going to Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #35

You argue the poll is old/irrelevant, yet new polls still show Biden at the top. emulatorloo Mar 2019 #37

Biden may be at the top because more progressive Dems have multiple choices, just a hunch. JudyM Mar 2019 #38

Yes, agreed that is quite possible emulatorloo Mar 2019 #39

Jeez. I said the poll was from midterms (it is) and said it may not reflect what people think now Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #40

Exciting array of pix. K and R oasis Mar 2019 #17

Tiring of the dumbass labels from msm emulatorloo Mar 2019 #18

What strange times we live in when THIS is "Centrist" Amimnoch Mar 2019 #22

Beto's actual voting record paints a different picture, though. But as I wrote above... Garrett78 Mar 2019 #24

As I wrote above, MSM seems to want to label any candidate not named Sanders a "centrist" emulatorloo Mar 2019 #29

The big oil stuff has certainly been dishonest, but the fact remains that Beto's voting history... Garrett78 Mar 2019 #89

There are people trying to set up a left wing tea party Renew Deal Mar 2019 #34

I like Biden and Beto for this reason Gothmog Mar 2019 #31

Beto couldn't beat Cruz Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #52

Beto is far more electable compared to sanders Gothmog Mar 2019 #54

Beto still lost to Cruz Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #55

Texas went for Romney by 16% and trump by 9% Gothmog Mar 2019 #57

So? Beto was close in Texas Cha Mar 2019 #74

Yes despite having a weak candidate for governor Gothmog Mar 2019 #79

Interesting to know, Goth.. Gracias.. Cha Mar 2019 #82

This is interesting Gothmog Mar 2019 #92

Gracias! Cha Mar 2019 #93

Texas isn't the entire country. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #59

Not sure which Democrat could have beaten Cruz in Texas andym Mar 2019 #61

Trump couldn't obnoxiousdrunk Mar 2019 #62

Beto might have won Texas last November if it was a presidential contest Gothmog Mar 2019 #91

Here is a good explanation Gothmog Mar 2019 #94

It would even out our field well. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #33

Centrists Faux pas Mar 2019 #60

Yup workinclasszero Mar 2019 #65

I do not want to see trump re-elected because we put up a weak unelectable nominee Gothmog Mar 2019 #72

Biden remains the most qualified both nationally and globally... LakeArenal Mar 2019 #81