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Democratic Primaries

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts) Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:12 AM Jul 2019

I did not watch the debate and I read here that Bernie [View all]

and Warren did well.
I see again the old idealism vs pragmatism.

I happen to think that pragmatism will get more votes than idealism.

It was said in the debate analyst that the President does not write the bills. What ever health care system we have will have passed the House and the Senate.

So if we have MFA it will be a compromised system.

We already have the ACA and people like it. Adding a public option is the fastest way to get to universal health care. It offers choice not forced change.

MFA will cost us votes we need to beat trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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I did not watch the debate and I read here that Bernie [View all] wasupaloopa Jul 2019 OP

funny, i see MFA as pragmatic, and plans that allay unfounded fears as idealistic floppyboo Jul 2019 #1

We already know what a public option is. We almost wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #3

Yeah. We almost had it but pragmatic centrists like Joe Lieberman killed it. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #14

I don't think one could describe Lieberman as a centrist... ehrnst Jul 2019 #15

Lol. Ok. He's only a founding member of The New Democrat Senate Coalition Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #16

lol. Ok. He hasn't been a Dem since 2006. The ACA was 2009/10. And you call ANY Democrat who didn't ehrnst Jul 2019 #18

Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #20

So you're backing off your fallacious description of Joe Leiberman now that you got corrected ehrnst Jul 2019 #21

If you look back and actually read what I said in my initial reply I didn't say he was a Democrat. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #23

Nice try... ehrnst Jul 2019 #24

TL;DR Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #25

Because of course you're "moving on." It's embarassing when someone calls you out on something you ehrnst Jul 2019 #26

Sadly, that's true. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #2

It looks like you said what I said with more words. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #4

LOL, I've always been a bit verbose! PatrickforO Jul 2019 #5

Yeah, pragmatism worked out really well with progressoid Jul 2019 #6

They all spent their careers getting things done that help Americans. betsuni Jul 2019 #7

But did it get them elected president? progressoid Jul 2019 #8

I don't know what "status quo" means. betsuni Jul 2019 #9

You should learn what it means, it gets used a lot around here. aidbo Jul 2019 #13

Thank you for pointing it out. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #17

No. betsuni Jul 2019 #19

Money in politics is the existing state of affairs. Is it not? aidbo Jul 2019 #27

exactly, they actually do have a record of progress . not just talk about how nobody else is good JI7 Jul 2019 #10

+1 betsuni Jul 2019 #11

They did well in the opinions of their supporters. MineralMan Jul 2019 #12

I think Warren was pretty effective, Bernie not so much. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #22

You think she should smile more? tkmorris Jul 2019 #28

I think all politicians should smile more. Bernie doesn't smile. MineralMan Jul 2019 #29

I would like Warren to seriously entertain questions from within her own party about her emmaverybo Jul 2019 #30