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betsuni

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7. They all spent their careers getting things done that help Americans.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:13 AM
Jul 2019

Progressives who get things done. Talk is cheap.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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funny, i see MFA as pragmatic, and plans that allay unfounded fears as idealistic floppyboo Jul 2019 #1
We already know what a public option is. We almost wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #3
Yeah. We almost had it but pragmatic centrists like Joe Lieberman killed it. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #14
I don't think one could describe Lieberman as a centrist... ehrnst Jul 2019 #15
Lol. Ok. He's only a founding member of The New Democrat Senate Coalition Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #16
lol. Ok. He hasn't been a Dem since 2006. The ACA was 2009/10. And you call ANY Democrat who didn't ehrnst Jul 2019 #18
Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #20
So you're backing off your fallacious description of Joe Leiberman now that you got corrected ehrnst Jul 2019 #21
If you look back and actually read what I said in my initial reply I didn't say he was a Democrat. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #23
Nice try... ehrnst Jul 2019 #24
TL;DR Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #25
Because of course you're "moving on." It's embarassing when someone calls you out on something you ehrnst Jul 2019 #26
Sadly, that's true. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #2
It looks like you said what I said with more words. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #4
LOL, I've always been a bit verbose! PatrickforO Jul 2019 #5
Yeah, pragmatism worked out really well with progressoid Jul 2019 #6
They all spent their careers getting things done that help Americans. betsuni Jul 2019 #7
But did it get them elected president? progressoid Jul 2019 #8
I don't know what "status quo" means. betsuni Jul 2019 #9
You should learn what it means, it gets used a lot around here. aidbo Jul 2019 #13
Thank you for pointing it out. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #17
No. betsuni Jul 2019 #19
Money in politics is the existing state of affairs. Is it not? aidbo Jul 2019 #27
exactly, they actually do have a record of progress . not just talk about how nobody else is good JI7 Jul 2019 #10
+1 betsuni Jul 2019 #11
They did well in the opinions of their supporters. MineralMan Jul 2019 #12
I think Warren was pretty effective, Bernie not so much. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #22
You think she should smile more? tkmorris Jul 2019 #28
I think all politicians should smile more. Bernie doesn't smile. MineralMan Jul 2019 #29
I would like Warren to seriously entertain questions from within her own party about her emmaverybo Jul 2019 #30
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