I did not watch the debate and I read here that Bernie

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24. Nice try...

Face it - you use "centrist" as a general perjorative against Democrats you don't like, and not so subtly equated any Democrat that didn't support the public option as a "pragmatic centrist' "like Joe Leiberman" - when you forgot that Obama was also in that group.

Subtle like when someone looks at you and says, "You're wearing that?" and you say, "You don't like it?" And they say, "I didn't say I didn't like it..." in an effort to not seem like they're insulting your judgement, even though you both know that's what they're saying.

But to the point: Democrats don't like Lieberman. He's not a 'centrist,' where Democrats are concerned, and hasn't been for awhile.

It was during the post-9/11 years that Lieberman linked arms with Republicans Graham and McCain, two other hawks who, like their Democratic friend, were known to thwart their party. The trio traveled the world together and became known as the "Three Amigos." So high was their mutual regard that McCain reportedly wanted Lieberman to be his 2008 running mate, though he eventually succumbed to pressure to pick conservative Sarah Palin instead.

Still, Lieberman stood by his friend.

"In the Senate, during the three-and-a-half years that Sen. Barack Obama has been a member, he has not reached across party lines to ... accomplish anything significant, nor has he been willing to take on powerful interest groups in the Democratic Party to get something done," he said at the 2008 Republican convention.

Democrats viewed that speech as blasphemy.

"He could have given a speech defending John McCain, but instead he went on the offense and blistered Obama over his lack of foreign policy skills, which were a major Republican talking point," said Manley, a long-time senior aide to Harry Reid, the former Democratic Senate leader. "It caused a lot of ill will."

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/why-democrats-dont-like-joe-lieberman/index.html