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hlthe2b

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163. I know the history of that bill. It was HRC and Schumer that pushed it immediately.

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 05:54 AM

Aug 2019

That is BS revisionist history to give Gillibrand credit for what HRC absolutely made happen. It wasn't Gillibrand down at the site with the mayor and governor immediately afterward. It was HRC.

Did she support HRC's bill? Well, I'd sure as hell hope so.

Desperation. What next? She was with Trump doing clean up?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Wednesday Debate #1 [View all] MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 OP

KR.. you had so much Cha Jul 2019 #1

I'll try to keep a sense of humor about it MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #5

The National Anthem singer does, though! customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #10

Yeah MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #26

Motown is one of America's great musical treasures. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #34

I do love beagles, all dogs, in fact, and all Dems. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #2

... MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #7

2 minute warning from the stage manager brooklynite Jul 2019 #3

K & R ... + 1,000,000 thanks for doing this again, MLB! MFGsunny Jul 2019 #4

I see that nobody's making the Ryan mistake customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #6

When did that become a thing? Bettie Jul 2019 #89

When it got discussed during and after the debate customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #100

Since Decemberr 22 of 1942. CentralMass Jul 2019 #132

I still don't recall it ever Bettie Jul 2019 #149

I was born in 1960 and it was a thing in central Massachusetts CentralMass Jul 2019 #160

Buckling (though I don't think I will watch a lot... too tired). n/t demmiblue Jul 2019 #8

Where is the debate? I see a test of how people need to put their hand over their heart Pachamama Jul 2019 #9

I don't see the point of doing this either MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #16

I hope the debate is better than the National Anthem performance. Goodheart Jul 2019 #11

I'm risking aggravating my tendinitis to be here. But dammit, nolabear Jul 2019 #12

In case you didn't hear the Biden/Harris exchange: Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #13

Like customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #14

What was the heckler saying? nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #15

What is that yelling about? demmiblue Jul 2019 #17

Somebody started customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #18

No, but I'll bet he's been escorted far, far away. nolabear Jul 2019 #21

Bennet is talking too slow. I like the substance though. nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #19

it's funny, I noticed that too... IcyPeas Jul 2019 #25

Bill De Blasio took on Biden and Harris directly... brooklynite Jul 2019 #20

Did Inslee wear glasses at the first debate? customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #22

I don't think so. I don't recognize this look. nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #35

He wears them when he needs them. It's a pretty standard look for him. ancianita Jul 2019 #103

Gillibrand is blinking customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #23

Taking credit for the 911 bill that HRC originally got through with Schumer... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #28

Not for the first time. Control-Z Jul 2019 #131

GILLIBRAND was in the house in 2001 karynnj Aug 2019 #162

I know the history of that bill. It was HRC and Schumer that pushed it immediately. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #163

Goddamn I love Inslee. femmedem Jul 2019 #24

let's see how he comes thru tonight. IcyPeas Jul 2019 #27

what were they saying? IcyPeas Jul 2019 #29

Because someone didn't look before they posted the second one. demmiblue Jul 2019 #41

It's no big deal MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #76

Heh! demmiblue Jul 2019 #98

Cute gif MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #125

There were four during the last debates, remember? We're a big place. There's room enough for two. ancianita Jul 2019 #109

What are they yelling at booker ? Anybody caught it ? drray23 Jul 2019 #30

Sounded like either edhopper Jul 2019 #39

More heckling. What are they saying? demmiblue Jul 2019 #31

just looked at Cory Booker's Twitter IcyPeas Jul 2019 #61

Oh my god. They're shouting Booker down. This is disgusting. nolabear Jul 2019 #32

What are these interrupters chanting? Goodheart Jul 2019 #33

Could anyone make out what was being shouted while Booker was making his opening statement? nt dflprincess Jul 2019 #36

This is all I could find. lapucelle Jul 2019 #69

Thanks! dflprincess Jul 2019 #72

What was that yelling about? Duppers Jul 2019 #37

What's with the chanting? MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #38

Protesters? pertello Jul 2019 #40

Most guys pecked Kamala and Kirsten. If Biden had done it, there would have been outrage. NT gateley Jul 2019 #42

Jay Inslee with the most important message so far. Goodheart Jul 2019 #43

Yes. Important and impassioned. femmedem Jul 2019 #62

Mike problems for both Yang and Harris. Hopefully fixed Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #44

I didn't notice last night customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #50

Last night was technically flawless. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #56

I think the sound engineers customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #63

Bravo, Joe!!!!! gateley Jul 2019 #45

+1 hlthe2b Jul 2019 #48

you know he wanted to tell #fatdonnie to get the fuck out demtenjeep Jul 2019 #66

Hell yes-that was MY BIDEN demtenjeep Jul 2019 #46

He sold it. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #57

JOOOOOOOOOEEEEEE!!!!! nolabear Jul 2019 #47

That was Awesome! MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #54

Excellent Joe. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #49

Biden with the best opening statement. Inslee with the most important. Goodheart Jul 2019 #51

Just say what the plan is. ecstatic Jul 2019 #52

RE: DeBlassio: demmiblue Jul 2019 #53

They're setting Harris up to fight. She's not taking the bait so far. nolabear Jul 2019 #55

Joe kicking tRump's rump flamingdem Jul 2019 #58

Great start Joe! You hit a home run. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #59

He did well.... Pachamama Jul 2019 #74

Kamala's answer is more legalese. All she had to do ecstatic Jul 2019 #60

That was not good. Goodheart Jul 2019 #65

Something to do with babies n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #67

I don't know either. nolabear Jul 2019 #71

Kamala's plan is Bernie's plan, which is the best plan. ancianita Jul 2019 #99

I wonder if Harris is letting Joe come forward so she can rebut. nolabear Jul 2019 #64

Biden getting revenge pertello Jul 2019 #68

Sorry, Joe... this STATUS QUO plan of yours SUCKS. Goodheart Jul 2019 #70

It's not status quo. It's building on a plan that's viable. nolabear Jul 2019 #73

By the guy who got the ACA through Congress, no less. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #75

The ACA is not cutting it. Goodheart Jul 2019 #81

Because it's been absolutely decimated by the Trump administration. bearsfootball516 Jul 2019 #94

we can do better jcgoldie Jul 2019 #105

Better? Like waiting another 20-40 years for something that could get passed? ehrnst Jul 2019 #152

I remember that the "we can do better" argument was made in 1993-1994 lapucelle Jul 2019 #157

Making "better" the enemy of "getting actual care to more people now, not years from now" ehrnst Jul 2019 #158

Yup. We let the perfect become the enemy of the good, and we ended up with nothing. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #159

It is continuing a terrific program Obama started which Trump blocked. Under Biden, it can be emmaverybo Jul 2019 #78

Sorry, but it's NOT a terrific plan. Having paid $900 per month for just myself I should know. Goodheart Jul 2019 #90

Costs must come down. The coverage is good. Premiums can be brought down. The income emmaverybo Jul 2019 #155

Including private insurance companies is a HINDRANCE to getting costs down. Goodheart Jul 2019 #156

Now. And because you and Warren say so. And the replacement MUST be M4A despite many emmaverybo Aug 2019 #161

Gillibrand was impressive, performance-wise. n/t demmiblue Jul 2019 #77

A little shrill there at one point, though. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #80

... demmiblue Jul 2019 #86

She got high pitched for a second or two. customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #95

Wow why does Harris have the knives out for Biden? She's almost coming across as angry -- gateley Jul 2019 #79

I expected that, didn't you? I'm sure Joe did. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #83

She is showing a kind of unseemly hostility. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #84

... MFGsunny Jul 2019 #108

I like the anger when focused on the right person-- trump. nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #96

OK. Booker is doing good so far. Taking the high road. nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #82

But dodging the question. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #87

Excellent dodge though. Made me forget the question. nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #91

Bwah! Mission Accomplished!! nt gateley Jul 2019 #97

Alexander Haig was good at that. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #107

Yes, that was an excellent response. femmedem Jul 2019 #93

Okay, found you. I see you started this first, but the other was the first I saw. I'll be around. ancianita Jul 2019 #85

hi. enjoy IcyPeas Jul 2019 #92

I hate the way they question....Con so and so how do you feel about cong so and so demtenjeep Jul 2019 #88

It's like they're trying to stir things up -- they did it last night, too. nt gateley Jul 2019 #104

I like Kamala a lot, but is she going to do anything but attack Biden all night? bearsfootball516 Jul 2019 #101

joe is stuttering a bit IcyPeas Jul 2019 #102

Yeah, Bernie did that a bit last night. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #110

Took him a long time to conquer it. It's a lifelong concern. nolabear Jul 2019 #111

Joe grew up with a debilitating stammer that he overcame by reciting poetry while gateley Jul 2019 #112

omg I didn't know this. thanks IcyPeas Jul 2019 #114

Me either, he seems to have done a remarkable job conquering it. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #118

I think this is different, though -- like he's trying to think of a bunch of things at once and gateley Jul 2019 #124

it is an interesting tidbit about him IcyPeas Jul 2019 #139

That sudden shutting up when times up is odd, Joe. nolabear Jul 2019 #106

It's a contrast with Harris customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #113

True dat. nolabear Jul 2019 #115

He had a lifelong stuttering - its how he trained to stop it Pachamama Jul 2019 #116

Can someone clarify private vs public medicare plans? nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #117

Yes please! redwitch Jul 2019 #122

New Thread littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #119

Not good for Kamala on the Health Care back and forth Indygram Jul 2019 #120

So you're watching? DesertRat Jul 2019 #127

Tired of candidates trying to deflect criticism from their own party members by calling it emmaverybo Jul 2019 #121

The argument about "losing your employer based insurance".. jcgoldie Jul 2019 #133

I don't care whose point it is. Answer the question. Rebut the argument rather than label it to emmaverybo Jul 2019 #154

Inslee highlighting the need for mental healthcare. demmiblue Jul 2019 #123

Absolutely MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #128

Yang nailed healthcare in 30 seconds. ecstatic Jul 2019 #126

He's smart and has great ideas Bettie Jul 2019 #130

Indeed. Goodheart Jul 2019 #134

Didn't he though? I really like him. nt gateley Jul 2019 #137

Biden and Bennet don't understand the economics of our healthcare situation. Goodheart Jul 2019 #129

Joe's nailing this customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #138

He's losing me. He doesn't know what he's talking about, sorry. Goodheart Jul 2019 #143

Joe will not be the pushover that Delaney was for Warren. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #150

Yeah sure and you do ? drray23 Jul 2019 #142

Biden was deeply involved in creating the ACA. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #146

Release the malarkey! demmiblue Jul 2019 #135

He said malarkey! drray23 Jul 2019 #136

Take a drink MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #141

One for each malarkey 😁 drray23 Jul 2019 #145

I hope he doesn't say it too often or we're all in trouble MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #147

Kamala just called Biden's plan what I called it: STATUS QUO Goodheart Jul 2019 #140

GUYS, go to new thread please ((( DEBATE THREAD #2))) IcyPeas Jul 2019 #144

Good grief is there no other way to talk about immigration than decriminalization? tulipsandroses Jul 2019 #148

I like Yang BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #151

It was Harris turn in the grinder. drray23 Jul 2019 #153